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Old 07-29-2013, 03:37 PM
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thinking about goin with the M84 instead of using the aem v2 stuff on my sfwd build wanted to see if anyone has input on what sensors any thing needed i should deff use and what data logger display they like best I dont have a bunch of money or any sponsors but i wanna get the good stuff since im having a full harness and relay panel built with it dont wanna have to add stuff i shouldve jus got the first time so im trying to figure out what i should have for around 1000hp set up any input would be helpful
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Jr I can help you out. Text me.later.
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ok thanks
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Originally Posted by 94boostedhatch
thinking about goin with the M84 instead of using the aem v2 stuff on my sfwd build wanted to see if anyone has input on what sensors any thing needed i should deff use and what data logger display they like best I dont have a bunch of money or any sponsors but i wanna get the good stuff since im having a full harness and relay panel built with it dont wanna have to add stuff i shouldve jus got the first time so im trying to figure out what i should have for around 1000hp set up any input would be helpful
Dont know who is doing your harnes and relay panel but Joel @ racespec is very familiar with motec products and he will be able to guide you in the right direction as to what logger to use. Who ever is building your harness should have been able to let you know what sensors you need>>>>>
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joel is who i was talking to jus wanted to see what anyone else reccomended see if theres somthing better about one then the other
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AEM is childs play. They to this day still deny any claims that their boxes burn ignitors/coils. Some customer service :/

I have only used a m600 after finally getting rid of my first and last aem box.
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HOW ABOUT FUELTECH , IVE HEARD REAL GOOD THINGS ABOUT EM
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Nothing against any other ecm. But the gold box lays down the standard that every other mfg tries to follow. Motec is just the one you want to use when talking about efi. Period. The infinity seems promising but I havent seen all that much from them.
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yea ive heard of a couple horror stories causing some issues with aem not sure the exact details/ causes but everyone swears by motec id rather jus pay the extra and get a bullet proof system they always say u get what u pay for
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do most u guys jus use k-coils?
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Your ems/ecm is only as good as your tuner.
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Yes I agree to the point that the ems is only good as the monkey behind the keyboard but consistency is major factor on how these ems perform. I had major issue's with AEM V1 back in the day. work great one pass and then do weird **** the next pass. Why spend big money race car or street car and then buy a sub par EMS system. Which to me is the most important piece of the race car. Motec is the way to go I love mine I never go back to any other EMS. Fuel-tech looks like a sony playstation psp to me and yes a few cars seem to work well on it.
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I would just talk to Joel and let him know your setup, what sensors you are using ect and your goals and he would be best to tell you whats going to work for you. The M84 doesn't use individual cylinder tables, can't do dbw ect. I myself use dbw and use up 3 inputs just on dbw and it leaves me room for only 5 sensors with out the added expense of a 888 module. So if you need more than 8 inputs your are looking at an extra $1500 or so going motec and if you ever plan on using dbw or individual cylinder tables you will be better off with an M4/6/800 even if its used. You can take the serial number off a used unit and call motec to confirm its a legit unit.
Dont forget you are paying extra for added functions on the motec as well.
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I posted on here to try and gain more knowledge on the unit and what sensors are recommended and what not and to hear feedback on what people like best
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does anyone like motec dash logger more over race pak or aimsport?
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Originally Posted by jc@douglas
I would just talk to Joel and let him know your setup, what sensors you are using ect and your goals and he would be best to tell you whats going to work for you. The M84 doesn't use individual cylinder tables, can't do dbw ect. I myself use dbw and use up 3 inputs just on dbw and it leaves me room for only 5 sensors with out the added expense of a 888 module. So if you need more than 8 inputs your are looking at an extra $1500 or so going motec and if you ever plan on using dbw or individual cylinder tables you will be better off with an M4/6/800 even if its used. You can take the serial number off a used unit and call motec to confirm its a legit unit.
Dont forget you are paying extra for added functions on the motec as well.
whats dbw?
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Originally Posted by 94boostedhatch
whats dbw?
drive by wire
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gotcha don't have dbw so that's not an issue whats the advantage to having individual cylinder tables? that to tune it more precise I guess
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Originally Posted by 94boostedhatch
does anyone like motec dash logger more over race pak or aimsport?
Im running a digital dash for the first time and i looked at both options racepak and Motec. For simplictiy I chose to run the motec CDL3 dash with the logging feature added to it. works quite well with my Motec m800
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I was leaning towards that did u get the led slm light also looked like a nice piece
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so what sensors are everyone using map, lambada, air temp, oil pressure, boost
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I'm sure you've seen this
http://www.motec.com.au/m84/m84overview/

They have standard sensor inputs to use, once you are done with those you have two user inputs for anything...

Coolant pressure
Clutch pressure
Emap
Crankcase pressure
Etc...

Don't forget, you get 512k standard memory built in to the m84 box for logging purposes, so to get started you don't NEED a logger dash, but it can help
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I only have a ADL becuase i cant stand traditional gauges. SDL and ADL's are good if you want a live view of data, or you can use them separate from your ecu adn wire sensors straight to them. I also have the SLM which gets a lot of conversations going with the 7 color led. I want the power distibution module, but havent had a need for it quite yet.
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yea I want the digital dash and slm with it I already sold all my gauges and im trying to figure out what sensors most people run so I know what I should get can someone just give me a list of all there sensors there using so I can get an idea of what people are using?
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Default Re: MoTeC M84 ecu

Only thing that sucks about the M84 is that you can't use an E888 or the E816, but for an ECU it's super solid. It's inputs and outputs are just limited and that is reflected by the price.


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