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FunctionovaForm Jan 23, 2012 03:14 PM

Re: E85 or E98 By The Drum?
 
That sucks:cry:

tepid1 Jan 23, 2012 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by AcuraIntegraLS-T (Post 46733054)
There was a tax credit on ethanol that ran out, and was not extended, so the price of all ethanol will most likely be increasing. I'm in Idaho and get E98 by the 55 gallon drum. If anyone wants to check on shipping I may be able to help get some drums out to people.

Do you mind sharing what you pay for 55gal?

m3tech95 Jan 23, 2012 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by intevic94 (Post 46732764)
She told me by the barrel. . She say she out as of right now and the price is going up.


Originally Posted by AcuraIntegraLS-T (Post 46733054)
There was a tax credit on ethanol that ran out, and was not extended, so the price of all ethanol will most likely be increasing. I'm in Idaho and get E98 by the 55 gallon drum. If anyone wants to check on shipping I may be able to help get some drums out to people.

Yeah, basically prices will be going way up since the tax credit is no longer active....pump gas low boost + race gas high boost it is i guess

Bugermass Jan 23, 2012 06:32 PM

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I've been using ignite yellow lately. Its good stuff. Supposedly its E100 cut to 98% with a top lube.

FunctionovaForm Jan 23, 2012 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugermass (Post 46734273)
I've been using ignite yellow lately. Its good stuff. Supposedly its E100 cut to 98% with a top lube.

Good to know, I just priced 55gal. of yellow today lol $270 plus the shipping

AcuraIntegraLS-T Jan 23, 2012 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by tepid1 (Post 46733676)
Do you mind sharing what you pay for 55gal?

I will need to look but I do not mind sharing, last time we bought it was like mid of last summer so I don't think the price we paid will represent the current price very well.


Originally Posted by m3tech95 (Post 46733684)
Yeah, basically prices will be going way up since the tax credit is no longer active....pump gas low boost + race gas high boost it is i guess

I sent a letter to my representatives basically saying that without the tax credit there would be less or even no incentive to run e85 in all the flex fuel vehicles that have been sold in the US because of the lower mpg that comes with e85. The response I got was along the lines of e85 is good but they will not be supporting an extension because they felt that e85 production would push up the price of corn and corn feed for live stock and thus push up the price of foods we buy. My first reaction was, wouldn't a increase in gas prices do the same thing where we use e10 in all our pump gas right now? And the leftover byproduct of making e85 still has all the nutrients that the feed had, and it gets sold for a lower price than corn feed, and is fed to live stock in place of regular corn feed. So it appears that my representatives, and many others apparently, must have been fed just enough information about e85 to put them against it for dumb reasons, too bad. I will still use e98 in my car but I feel bad for the efforts and money that has been spent on flex fuel vehicles and technology. I guess there are some developments being made in what is called cellulosic based ethanol, made from things such as switch grass, but thats the extent of what I know about that. We only have one e85 pump around here, and I hope that the change in the tax credit doesn't get it pulled out from the station.

Twenty47 Jan 24, 2012 12:25 PM

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i thought prices already went up from that tax credit thing. Im in arkansas and we have a few pumps around here with e85. it was like 1.70 a gallon before and not its over 3 bucks.

SPOOLINmatt Jan 24, 2012 02:10 PM

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ya that tax credit only adds a few penny's to every gallon, not tripling the price of it

ahobbs Jan 24, 2012 03:04 PM

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my ignite cost me 425.00

xenocron Jan 24, 2012 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by FunctionovaForm (Post 46733011)
Has anybody in the NJ area ordered any E98? im considering using it for a project but im starting to think after shipping it my equal out to just buying Q16

Gio, I'll probably be getting a few drums by March of both Ignite Red and Yellow...shoot me an email if you want to get in

tepid1 Jan 24, 2012 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ahobbs (Post 46739346)
my ignite cost me 425.00

That's crazy....

ahobbs Jan 24, 2012 05:11 PM

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Crazy good or bad? The distributor is 5 miles from me

SOHC_MShue Jan 24, 2012 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by intevic94 (Post 46731362)
I just call worldwide fuel and the wanted $10 a gallon for e98. That alot . What happen to beening 3.50 a gallon?

Me and my dad bought the last 2 drums of ethanol they had a few months ago. They told us they were not sure when they would get more and that the price would be increased to something ridiculous. They are out of their minds if they want $10 a gallon for the stuff.

Since then I have found a pump about $45 minutes away from me. Recently I got it there for $2.89/gallon . So far it has tested 85% every time I went there. This last batch I bought a couple weeks ago.

Bugermass Jan 24, 2012 08:36 PM

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Just get a few friends together and buy one of these.. Make 200+ gallons of E100 a week in your home for about $1 a gallon..

http://www.microfueler.com/

The people in power only want you to THINK there is no good reason to have ethanol.. Follow the money and you'll see why..

AcuraIntegraLS-T Jan 24, 2012 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugermass (Post 46741356)
Just get a few friends together and buy one of these.. Make 200+ gallons of E100 a week in your home for about $1 a gallon..

http://www.microfueler.com/

The people in power only want you to THINK there is no good reason to have ethanol.. Follow the money and you'll see why..

I looked at that system a few days ago and thought "i want a e100 pump at my house". I'm not sure how their system is set up and where you get your stuff to ferment from (like if they give you an option to buy form their source or something) , but on a forum I found, they are saying it takes something like 500 liters of "mash" which is the fermented mix, for 50 gallons of e100. Making a still and doing this yourself seems like it could be beneficial and very doable if you have a large rather inexpensive source to make the "mash".

Bugermass Jan 25, 2012 02:17 PM

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They use unprocessed sugar that you can either buy yourself or get from their supplier. Also so you poor old alcohol like beer and wine or whatever as well as certain food scraps. Its pretty neat how it works.

1QwIkEf Jan 27, 2012 10:28 AM

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What r u guys paying for a 55 of rocket e85? Local place told me $800

FunctionovaForm Jan 27, 2012 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by xenocron (Post 46739745)
Gio, I'll probably be getting a few drums by March of both Ignite Red and Yellow...shoot me an email if you want to get in

Great ill keep that in mind Chris


Originally Posted by Bugermass (Post 46741356)
Just get a few friends together and buy one of these.. Make 200+ gallons of E100 a week in your home for about $1 a gallon..

http://www.microfueler.com/

The people in power only want you to THINK there is no good reason to have ethanol.. Follow the money and you'll see why..

My girlfriend saw me looking at a website that shows you how to make a still. She immediately said "hell no, your going to blow yourself up!" lol

BEfab Jan 27, 2012 11:10 AM

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So how do you get around having issues with atf if you distill your own ethanol?

FunctionovaForm Jan 27, 2012 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by BEfab (Post 46757141)
So how do you get around having issues with atf if you distill your own ethanol?

From my research you have to apply for a permit to distill it and you have to cut it down to e98

PrecisionPerformanceParts Jan 27, 2012 12:31 PM

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I see the Rockefellers are back to their old tricks that they used the middle of last century. They just needed to line the pockets of the useless politicians this time. Last time they had to use religion to ban alcohol.

AcuraIntegraLS-T Jan 27, 2012 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by PrecisionPerformanceParts (Post 46757541)
I see the Rockefellers are back to their old tricks that they used the middle of last century. They just needed to line the pockets of the useless politicians this time. Last time they had to use religion to ban alcohol.

Is there a like button on here..... o there it is http://chrisblattman.com/files/2011/...133.jpg?9d7bd4

AcuraIntegraLS-T Aug 11, 2012 11:13 AM

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Hey I know this is an old thread but anyone close to us, Idaho Falls, we have a tanker bringing in e98 this Wednesday. If you are close enough that you want to come pick up some fuel we can make arrangements to get the fuel and hold it for you. PM me for details if you are interested in getting some e98. As far as shipping a barrel, I have no idea what it would cost or who to take it to so for this go round I don't think we will be shipping any barrels. Next time, if we have shipping worked out, we might be able to do that.

twkdCD595 Aug 12, 2012 09:17 AM

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Probably a month or so ago I just bought 2 drums of racing grade e98... worked out to be about 5.50 a gallon shipped, not bad imo!

What I plan to run from here on out, just got retuned for it and the results were awesome. The transmission casing did not like it though. :thumbup:


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