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integraboosted Aug 26, 2007 04:08 PM

ATI super damper?
 
I know its kinda like a noob question, but do I need a special tool to install one of these dampers its going on a b seires motor. Or it goes in like a stock damper thanks.

DaveF Aug 27, 2007 03:42 AM

Re: ATI super damper? (integraboosted)
 
the ati damper is a very tight fit. i have never used a press or anything to install one, you should be able to get it on with the oem bolt, just be sure its going on smooth, otherwise you will end up galling the crank snout and the hub of the damper, and that is no bueno.

integraboosted Aug 27, 2007 07:53 AM

Re: ATI super damper? (DaveF)
 
thanks.

ninesecrx Aug 27, 2007 11:12 AM

Re: ATI super damper? (integraboosted)
 
You will only need a puller to get it off...otherwise like what was said above.

turbotypeR@SPEC Aug 27, 2007 12:09 PM

Re: ATI super damper? (ninesecrx)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ninesecrx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You will only need a puller to get it off...otherwise like what was said above.</TD></TR></TABLE>
what he said

714phil Aug 28, 2007 11:09 PM

Re: ATI super damper? (turbotypeR@SPEC)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turbotypeR@SPEC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
what he said</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah what he said

ninesecrx Aug 29, 2007 12:14 AM

Re: ATI super damper? (714phil)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 714phil &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

yeah what he said</TD></TR></TABLE>

yup, he said it

integraboosted Sep 10, 2007 08:00 PM

Re: ATI super damper? (ninesecrx)
 
I got mines put on it was stiff as heck but, I'tll work I hope i dont break an oil pump at the dyno.

h22 civic Sep 13, 2007 02:33 PM

Re: ATI super damper? (ninesecrx)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ninesecrx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

yup, he said it</TD></TR></TABLE>
he sure did say it

Team Evol Tyrone Sep 13, 2007 03:57 PM

Re: ATI super damper? (integraboosted)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by integraboosted &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I know its kinda like a noob question, but do I need a special tool to install one of these dampers its going on a b seires motor. Or it goes in like a stock damper thanks.</TD></TR></TABLE>

All that they said but if I was you I would take a dab of lubricant and rub it on the crank snout and ease it on. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif

ninesecrx Sep 13, 2007 04:11 PM

Re: ATI super damper? (freakyty2)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by freakyty2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

All that they said but if I was you I would take a dab of lubricant and rub it on the crank snout and ease it on. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif </TD></TR></TABLE>

You can't ease it on, they are a press fit. It has to be that way in order to take vibrations out properly.

tony1 Sep 13, 2007 04:13 PM

Re: ATI super damper? (ninesecrx)
 
I always use some anti seize between the crank and pulley, just so it doesn't get stuck. Says to do so in the instructions from ATI

HR-1320 Sep 13, 2007 04:24 PM

Re: ATI super damper? (tony1)
 
Did you get one with an aluminum hub or steel.

tony1 Sep 13, 2007 04:29 PM

Re: ATI super damper? (HR-1320)
 
Steel

Turbo-charged Sep 13, 2007 05:49 PM

Re: ATI super damper? (tony1)
 
i use anti seize too........use the steel hubs, stay away from the aluminum ones. i have seen a few issues with those...never a problem with the steel.

ive used both the fluiddamper and ati on my car.

Boostfed Sep 13, 2007 06:11 PM

Re: ATI super damper? (Turbo-charged)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Turbo-charged &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i use anti seize too........use the steel hubs, stay away from the aluminum ones. i have seen a few issues with those...never a problem with the steel.

ive used both the fluiddamper and ati on my car.</TD></TR></TABLE>


Yep Fluidampr aluminum rounded out on me, I have a steel ATI now https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif

Team Evol Tyrone Sep 13, 2007 09:27 PM

Re: ATI super damper? (ninesecrx)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ninesecrx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

You can't ease it on, they are a press fit. It has to be that way in order to take vibrations out properly.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I put lube and got in on a little and took my airgun and slowly eased it on with air sorry I didn't specify it. Small burst with the gun until it was flush and then torqued.

ninesecrx Sep 13, 2007 11:07 PM

Re: ATI super damper? (freakyty2)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by freakyty2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I put lube and got in on a little and took my airgun and slowly eased it on with air sorry I didn't specify it. Small burst with the gun until it was flush and then torqued. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Gotcha, yeah...it does not take much, but they will not go on by hand. The bolt works great to pull them on.

Mista Bone Sep 14, 2007 11:16 AM

Mike, you happen to know the crank snout diameter for a B series?

I've got a spare crank pulley here, SWORE it was off a SOHC, but it has a 28mm bore.

LS maybe????

Thanks.

ninesecrx Sep 14, 2007 11:23 AM

Re: (Mista Bone)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mista Bone &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Mike, you happen to know the crank snout diameter for a B series?

I've got a spare crank pulley here, SWORE it was off a SOHC, but it has a 28mm bore.

LS maybe????

Thanks.</TD></TR></TABLE>

28mm would be a B series pulley. I think single cams are 24mm.

Mista Bone Sep 14, 2007 11:26 AM

early SOHC (88) were 22mm, rest 24mm.

great, 1 cam 4 life and how did I get this part?

LOL, Thanks Mike.

BTW: ATI gonna make a D Damper?

ExospeedAMcrx Sep 14, 2007 11:38 AM

Re: (Mista Bone)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mista Bone &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

BTW: ATI gonna make a D Damper?</TD></TR></TABLE>

they can make it if you need to. We've had custom Pulleys made in the past.

ninesecrx Sep 14, 2007 12:36 PM

Re: (ExospeedAMcrx)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ExospeedAMcrx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

they can make it if you need to. We've had custom Pulleys made in the past.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Custom ones are pretty pricey though, but they can make anything there...pretty neat company!

ExospeedAMcrx Sep 14, 2007 12:39 PM

Re: (ninesecrx)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ninesecrx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Custom ones are pretty pricey though, but they can make anything there...pretty neat company!</TD></TR></TABLE>

yup they are. but if someone really wanted it, be prepared to pay the price. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...es/emsmile.gif

Mista Bone Sep 14, 2007 07:46 PM

Good to see you around Wil!!!!!

You likely saw the Mercedes SC I'm adapting to where the AC used to be. Well the stock pulley on the crank wasn't big enough, could only spin the SC to about 11,000 rpm with engine @ 7500 rpms. Need 2:1 drive ratio.

Then while going thru an autoparts online auction, I cam across a universal AC mount, comes with 6 rib tensioner, just the the SC clutch/pulley......so I'd need a larger than stock 6 rib pulley https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...es/emsmile.gif

upper AC tensioner will no longer be needed

https://i107.photobucket.com/albums/...C/P9140003.jpg

https://i107.photobucket.com/albums/...C/P9140002.jpg

yes, that lightweight pulley is just for mock-up


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