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Old 02-01-2012, 03:57 PM   #1
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BMW Jet Black...... A professional detailers favorite color............Or worst Night mare?

Different manufacturers all use different types of paints and clear coats. Some paints can be soft, some can be hard. For example, Honda, Porsche, Nissan GTR..... all of these paints are typically very soft and require an art form of polishing to refine down and finish off the paint swirl free.
Then on the other end of the spectrum, you have paints from GM, such as Corvettes, or Cadillac's, or anything GM related, that are extremely hard and difficult to "cut". For example, If you have a Cadillac Escalade panel covered in swirls and scratches. it will take 3-4 passes of a heavy cutting combination to remove the 98% of defects, versus the same combination on softer paint which can take only 1-2 passes.

With this being said, you are left with "BMW Jet black" a paint that is in a class of its own.... you always hear of the horror stories on the detailing forums about "BMW Jet black". Some detailers say "Paint is Paint". Which is true, it can all be refined and polished out, but the journey to get it swirl free is the trick. From My experience with JB, it seems that the top surface of the paint is very soft, which is great for removing the light scratches. But the deeper you get, it seems the RID's and Scratches get more difficult to remove and level out. So this paint actually has the worst of both worlds, soft and difficult to finish out and very hard deep down to make it difficult to correct deeper RID's and scratches.


Here is an 07 BMW 335i that this customer contacted me about reviving. He wanted the car to look brand new, but he didn't want to have to get it repainted (Which surprisingly, a lot of people consider doing because they aren't properly informed about the potential of paint correction). The surface has light ACID rain etching and lots of surface scratches.

Enough with all of this reading, lets get to the pictures.

Here is the car when I arrived before the wash.







For the Washing process, I always start with the wheels first. This is to prevent the paint from getting wet and creating water spots while taking my time cleaning the wheels.

It is good to use a pH balanced wheel cleaner when cleaning your wheels. Sometimes it's ok to use a diluted "Wheel bright" such as Meguiars Wheel Bright, but only on painted or clear coated wheels. (But only ever so ofter, using it time after time will create a dull finish to your wheels)

Here I am using Sonax Full Effect. This wheel cleaner is pH balanced and is safe for any type of wheel, (painted or polished). The Sonax FE will actually disolve the Iron particles in the brake dust and turn a red color to inform you of it working.



(right after spraying)


(after 1 min)


I wanted to compare a different product that is designed for decontaminating any type of surface (Not a wheel cleaner), that dissolves iron particles just like Sonax FE. which is CarPro IronX.

here is a pic of Iron X reacting after 10-15 seconds. ( a lot faster then Sonax which takes 45-1min. to start changing)

(after 20-30 seconds) passenger side


I'm not determining which is better by how fast they react to the brake dust, just doing a little experiment. IronX is not a wheel cleaner, just a pH balanced decontaminate product that can help clean wheels.

I decided to spray IronX over the Sonax to see what the reaction would be like. The IronX really added to the effect.

(driver side with Sonax then IronX)


With the help of the EZ Detail brush and Wheel woolie's, I was able to get deep into the wheel and safely clean them





Next I Pre-Rinse the car knocking off any heavy/loose debris.



Then I give the car a good foam bath. the foam helps give the dirt some suspension while agitating the surface with a 100% sheep skin wash mitt. that is my Favorite method of washing to help prevent additional marring of the paint.






waxes and oils on the surface can hide lighter defects and scratches, so striping all of the old stuff off is crucial, here is what the paint looks like after the stripping wash.







Here you can see some of the light acid etching that was talked about earlier.







Next the car was brought inside for the prep and decontamination.

I clayed the car using Clay magic blue fine clay with Megs Window cleaner as lube. ( I feel that the window cleaner helps clean the surface as I am claying along with it being very inexpensive)



Testing the paint thickness making sure there are no surprises.



Here is the surface under some halogen lights









Here is a Test area.





For this car, I decided to hit it head on! my Dewalt 849x and dynabrade, with Meguiars M101 compound and Lake country Cyan pad.

here is a 50/50 picture of the front fender.







here you can see a bird etching spot that was removed halfway during the 50/50











Here you can see the beastly 849x and Dynabrade with Cyan/101



After 2 passes with cyan/101 (gotta love how 101 finishes down)







This is the area around the license plate and taillights.









Using my 4in Cyan and M101 on a 3in Rotary backing plate, I was able to get in all the tight areas.









here is a 50/50 using something I like to call the "Charlie Sheen Cocktail"
Lots of "Winning" using a combination of Meguiars top three game changers.











With this customer wanting Opti-Guard (aka Opti-Coat non 2.0) I knew that Optimum "prefers" you finish down with Optimum Finish Polish.

So for the Final Finishing step I use OPT Finish polish on the Lake Country Black Finishing pad on my 849/dynabrade.



So Glossy!!



Also, before applying a permanent coating for protection. you want to clean off any oils from the compounds and polishes. For this you can either give the car a dawn wash, or....

Optimum says if you use their products when buffing and polishing, you should only have to wipe the surface with a damp MF towel..... or an ONR wash.
So with me finishing down with OPT Finish polish, I opted to go for the ONR wash. ( the polymers in the ONR are suppose to help the Opti-Guard bond to the surface better)

The whole car was then cleaned with ONR and MF towel





My method of application is taking a Foam applicator, wrapping it inside of a latex glove, and then using a piece of wrapped MF towel to apply it to the paint.



This is the Opti-Guard "Flashing". A slight rainbow effect. Letting it flash for 1min-2min depending on temperature and humidity.



Then I knock down the high spots with MF towel gently wiping off the "un-flashed" left overs





My new favorite Tire Shine..... Zaino Z16..... I had never used any Zaino products, but MAN! I love this stuff! I wish I would have found it sooner!



Now for the Final Sun Shots!



























A total of 16 hours went into this one.
Thanks for looking, hope you enjoyed.

-Eric Witt

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This is the money shot.


FYI your line to detailedimage in your sig is the wrong link.
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Very nice. You are a true professional.

Black vehicles look really nice but, are extremely hard to keep clean. You wash it, drive 1/2 mile, get out and it's already dirty looking. Needless to say I won't be getting a black car next time.

BTW: Lived in Knoxville for a decade and never saw a piece of land that flat anywhere. lol
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great work man! Do you do this in one day or break it up into two days with it taking 16 hours?
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Thanks guys,
Anything over 15 hours I normally split it up in to two days, for this one it was about 10 hours on day one and then came back day two to finish up.
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DAMN THATS A GOOD DETAIL lol. man i learn so much from what you was doing . ThANKS
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Your work is simply amazing. You brought that car back from the dead...
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I never understood why BMW went with such a soft paint. I recently did a 2000 BMW 528 that had incredibly soft paint...so soft it just required m205 and orange lc pad for correction.

Great work, how do you like the Opti guard? I've yet to try it...need to though...heard great things about it.



Love this shot...here's one I took.

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wow, that cleaned up really nice!
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Holy crap. I thought those were permanent. I might have to give this a try on my car. great work o_0
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Jesus great job man. Im gonna have to get you to come down to nashville one week and do this to my lude!!
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I never understood why BMW went with such a soft paint. I recently did a 2000 BMW 528 that had incredibly soft paint...so soft it just required m205 and orange lc pad for correction.

Great work, how do you like the Opti guard? I've yet to try it...need to though...heard great things about it.



Love this shot...here's one I took.

Damn, wish my jet black e92 looked like this finished version lol.. I bought my car with some swirls, but over the years they only seem to get worse :/
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Wow, I havnt been on this forum in a few years.. I just got the email from your reply. Lol
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