1987 Civic Hatchback Headlight Switch Mod?
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1987 Civic Hatchback Headlight Switch Mod?
I use 3rd & 4th Gen Civics to commute with because they are the best around, but parts are getting hard to find for my 87.
My Windshield wiper Switch went out, so I replaced the assembly with one I pulled from the Junk yard...
The Wipers work now, but my Headlights won't come on any more. All other lights work fine, including the blinkers.
When I turn the switch my running lights come on, but the headlamps stay dark. I tried turning on the high beams, and still no headlamps. In fact, the High-beam indicator light doesn't come on either, so I don't think current is even making it that far... I guess I traded one problem for another, but it gets dark more often than it rains so I need to fix this soon.
My question is this: Can you install a 12v DC rocker switch on the dash and wire it to the harness instead of the stem switch on the steering column?
I don't want to spend any more money, but I don't want to fry anything by closing the wrong circuit.
I found a wiring diagram below, can I just install a switch that will connect the headlight wires to 12v DC?
http://www.redpepperracing.com/techn...g/aae.png.html
My Windshield wiper Switch went out, so I replaced the assembly with one I pulled from the Junk yard...
The Wipers work now, but my Headlights won't come on any more. All other lights work fine, including the blinkers.
When I turn the switch my running lights come on, but the headlamps stay dark. I tried turning on the high beams, and still no headlamps. In fact, the High-beam indicator light doesn't come on either, so I don't think current is even making it that far... I guess I traded one problem for another, but it gets dark more often than it rains so I need to fix this soon.
My question is this: Can you install a 12v DC rocker switch on the dash and wire it to the harness instead of the stem switch on the steering column?
I don't want to spend any more money, but I don't want to fry anything by closing the wrong circuit.
I found a wiring diagram below, can I just install a switch that will connect the headlight wires to 12v DC?
http://www.redpepperracing.com/techn...g/aae.png.html
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Re: 1987 Civic Hatchback Headlight Switch Mod?
Yeah, try owning a 2nd gen civic. None of the switches work even from the junk yard.
I recently bought a 4th gen light switch / WS wiper switch to adapt to the 2nd gen.
I would recommend trying to see if the 4th gen will adapt to the 3rd gen. There is a lot going on on the wiring harness to be experimenting with a rocker switch and risk a wiring harness meltdown. 4th gens seem to still be reasonably available in junkyards still. 2nd and 3rds are rarely seen here in Houston area junkyards.
I figure if you have enough smarts to do a rocker switch retrofit you should have the talent to retrofit a 4th gen switch. Good luck.
I recently bought a 4th gen light switch / WS wiper switch to adapt to the 2nd gen.
I would recommend trying to see if the 4th gen will adapt to the 3rd gen. There is a lot going on on the wiring harness to be experimenting with a rocker switch and risk a wiring harness meltdown. 4th gens seem to still be reasonably available in junkyards still. 2nd and 3rds are rarely seen here in Houston area junkyards.
I figure if you have enough smarts to do a rocker switch retrofit you should have the talent to retrofit a 4th gen switch. Good luck.
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Re: 1987 Civic Hatchback Headlight Switch Mod?
fuse(s), forgot if there is a relay(s)
Yes you can install your own switches, I have one on the old jeep with relays.
Yes you can install your own switches, I have one on the old jeep with relays.
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Re: 1987 Civic Hatchback Headlight Switch Mod?
There's probably a relay involved in the headlight circuit, better use a pretty high amp rated rocker switch if you're going to wire them directly.
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Re: 1987 Civic Hatchback Headlight Switch Mod?
I use 3rd & 4th Gen Civics to commute with because they are the best around, but parts are getting hard to find for my 87.
My Windshield wiper Switch went out, so I replaced the assembly with one I pulled from the Junk yard...
The Wipers work now, but my Headlights won't come on any more. All other lights work fine, including the blinkers.
When I turn the switch my running lights come on, but the headlamps stay dark. I tried turning on the high beams, and still no headlamps. In fact, the High-beam indicator light doesn't come on either, so I don't think current is even making it that far... I guess I traded one problem for another, but it gets dark more often than it rains so I need to fix this soon.
My question is this: Can you install a 12v DC rocker switch on the dash and wire it to the harness instead of the stem switch on the steering column?
I don't want to spend any more money, but I don't want to fry anything by closing the wrong circuit.
I found a wiring diagram below, can I just install a switch that will connect the headlight wires to 12v DC?
http://www.redpepperracing.com/techn...g/aae.png.html
My Windshield wiper Switch went out, so I replaced the assembly with one I pulled from the Junk yard...
The Wipers work now, but my Headlights won't come on any more. All other lights work fine, including the blinkers.
When I turn the switch my running lights come on, but the headlamps stay dark. I tried turning on the high beams, and still no headlamps. In fact, the High-beam indicator light doesn't come on either, so I don't think current is even making it that far... I guess I traded one problem for another, but it gets dark more often than it rains so I need to fix this soon.
My question is this: Can you install a 12v DC rocker switch on the dash and wire it to the harness instead of the stem switch on the steering column?
I don't want to spend any more money, but I don't want to fry anything by closing the wrong circuit.
I found a wiring diagram below, can I just install a switch that will connect the headlight wires to 12v DC?
http://www.redpepperracing.com/techn...g/aae.png.html
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Re: 1987 Civic Hatchback Headlight Switch Mod?
Update:
Switch contacts weren't seated correctly. I got the junk yard switch working.
The little arm that pushes the slide switch forward for the headlights (when you turn the ****) wasn't seating right. I prodded it into place with a screw driver and got the contacts working like they are supposed to.
Thanks for the suggestions: realred96, I'll keep the 4g mod in mind for next time. Sometimes my first instinct is to reinvent the wheel
letank & brady, thanks: knocking on wood that I don't have to, but good to know it is possible.
Thanks all!
Switch contacts weren't seated correctly. I got the junk yard switch working.
The little arm that pushes the slide switch forward for the headlights (when you turn the ****) wasn't seating right. I prodded it into place with a screw driver and got the contacts working like they are supposed to.
Thanks for the suggestions: realred96, I'll keep the 4g mod in mind for next time. Sometimes my first instinct is to reinvent the wheel
letank & brady, thanks: knocking on wood that I don't have to, but good to know it is possible.
Thanks all!
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