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95lscivic Apr 8, 2007 07:16 PM

hardwire zune
 
would it be possible to use a radio delete, and then hardwire my zune into my wiring harness? with of course the use of an amp.

.Thomas Apr 8, 2007 07:46 PM

Re: hardwire zune (95lscivic)
 
You wouldent need to harwire it into the harness ....

Just Zune -> Mini to RCA -> AMP -> To speakers

Its been done before, but dosent sound good.

95lscivic Apr 8, 2007 08:55 PM

Re: hardwire zune (TanCar)
 
huh, whats the reasoning for the bad sound quality?

.Thomas Apr 8, 2007 09:46 PM

Re: hardwire zune (95lscivic)
 
Its not bad, its just not great.

The internal amp in all Zunes/Ipods are not that great at all, and if you do use a Line out that bypasses the amp, you lose volume control on the player.

I dont think most amps are easy to control volume.

jz98ctr Apr 8, 2007 09:53 PM

it can be done but the sound quality tends to suffer a bit as TanCar had stated. i did it once when i molded a PSP into this kids' dash...using it as his MP3 and video/sound source...it did work...but it didn't sound all that great. I'd look into using some sort of a stereo that has DACs and an aux-in.

B18C_EJ8 Apr 9, 2007 06:59 AM

Re: hardwire zune (95lscivic)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95lscivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">huh, whats the reasoning for the bad sound quality?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Because portable audio devices are designed for output to headphones. As the old saying goes, garbage in, garbage out.

jz98ctr Apr 9, 2007 05:21 PM

Re: hardwire zune (B18C_EJ8)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18C_EJ8 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Because portable audio devices are designed for output to headphones. As the old saying goes, garbage in, garbage out. </TD></TR></TABLE>

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MP3s are junk if you are going for even somewhat DECENT sound...forget about sound quality. When an MP3 is played you have to think of the original source.
A CD is copied to a hard drive somewhere (loss of signal quality).
That hard drive in turn goes to a server somewhere where it is compressed (loss of signal quality).
That server sends that same compressed song over the net (loss of signal quality).
As you download the song...guess what??? (loss of signal quality)
As you either transfer that song to another CD or send to an MP3 player (loss of signal quality).
As you play through the headphone jack output that was not designed for sound quality...(loss of signal quality).

As you try to use that crappy, low-voltage, no DAC output to drive the inputs on an amp you would have to crank up the volume on the source and then adjust your amps' settings accordingly.........FOR EVERY SONG!
do you wanna pull over every five minutes to adjust your amps???

have you ever noticed that when going from song to song on an MP3 player or the like that almost every song has it's own inherent volume???

now take your copy of that same song and find someone with an original CD and listen to them both....back and forth and you will clearly notice a difference in the amount of volume from an original CD to the MP3 (or the like).

MP3s...and burned CDs https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...s/emthdown.gif
you spent how much on the zune piece...prolly a couple hundred at least.
you could'a spent that much on CDs.

support your favorite bands the way God intended....BUY CDs. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emwink.gif

.Thomas Apr 9, 2007 06:18 PM

Re: hardwire zune (jz98ctr)
 
ok ... cough* head-fi.org *COugh

The Only way it would sound good is a dedicated line out (not shure if a zune has this) with LOSELESS audio on it. if you dont know what that is, then dont do it.

jz98ctr Apr 9, 2007 08:04 PM

Re: hardwire zune (TanCar)
 
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95lscivic Apr 9, 2007 09:09 PM

Re: hardwire zune (jz98ctr)
 
i do buy my own music i have thousands of songs from cd's bought. i didn't ever say anything about downloading music. i was just wondering if i could do this and how. i understand how to do it but as its explained it sounds less and less worth the cost of doing so.

95lscivic Apr 9, 2007 09:19 PM

Re: hardwire zune (95lscivic)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TanCar &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok ... cough* head-fi.org *COugh

The Only way it would sound good is a dedicated line out (not shure if a zune has this) with LOSELESS audio on it. if you dont know what that is, then dont do it. </TD></TR></TABLE>

they only support mp3 and wma, not wma lossless. as the software progresses however, with updates in firmware, it is promised that the zune will be lossless wma compatable. but not yet. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...s/emthdown.gif


Modified by 95lscivic at 10:30 PM 4/9/2007

.Thomas Apr 9, 2007 11:07 PM

Re: hardwire zune (95lscivic)
 
does the zune have a line out at least?

gosh soo glad i am on the ipod bandwagon......

jz98ctr Apr 10, 2007 05:14 AM

ehh...Ipods, zune, MP3
trying to decide which one to use is kinda like trying to figure out what would be worse....
having someone throw feces at you....or....
having a monkey throw feces at you.

audioroach Apr 10, 2007 05:47 AM

Re: (jz98ctr)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jz98ctr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ehh...Ipods, zune, MP3
trying to decide which one to use is kinda like trying to figure out what would be worse....
having someone throw feces at you....or....
having a monkey throw feces at you.</TD></TR></TABLE>

LOL...your kinda right there.
Luckly not every vendor thinks that way. take a look at the MM-1 car audio accessory from these guys https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emwink.gif John and Mike from Hifonics FTW!! https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif
http://www.maxxsonics.com

PS...they have a car for sale https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif

.Thomas Apr 10, 2007 07:42 AM

Re: (audioroach)
 
My Vote would be ipod, loseless compatible, Has a line out with converter, great support

20strong Apr 15, 2007 11:05 PM

Zune is wireless. Does anyone have a Bluetooth capible deck to give it a try?

imadigitalgod Apr 16, 2007 07:31 AM

Re: hardwire zune (jz98ctr)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jz98ctr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
MP3s are junk if you are going for even somewhat DECENT sound...forget about sound quality. When an MP3 is played you have to think of the original source.
A CD is copied to a hard drive somewhere (loss of signal quality).
That hard drive in turn goes to a server somewhere where it is compressed (loss of signal quality).
That server sends that same compressed song over the net (loss of signal quality).
As you download the song...guess what??? (loss of signal quality)
As you either transfer that song to another CD or send to an MP3 player (loss of signal quality).
As you play through the headphone jack output that was not designed for sound quality...(loss of signal quality).
</TD></TR></TABLE>

I hope you are not meaning every time it is tansfered it looses more signal quality. when the mp3 is allready made, its a data file. No matter how many times the mp3 is transfered it will not loose its original sound quality to the point that it was made. the only way to reduce it is to reencode an mp3 file or corrupt the file somehow.

I am saying copying the cd to mp3 format definately does reduce its sound quality, just also saying that after the mp3 file has been created, it wont loose quality with transfering it from device to device as a amp


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