FST GSR 1

It was a resistance test and they did come out on top.

ohsnapzafingcu

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 00b20vtecoupe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">my ngk blues were like 45 bux... right from ngk.com i think they r like 55 now or sumthin. </TD></TR></TABLE>

there's two kinds of ngk blues, does yours look like these?

FST GSR 1

The bare wires and mangled radiator hose in that pic just made me throw up in my mouth a little.

0morgan@synapse motorsport

Oem wires from stock to 600+ hp have been working flawless for years. They also fit the best and last for a really long time.

IntegraType-R

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you are wasting your money.......there is no way your plugs and wires go bad that qucikly.....if they do then your setup has some serious issues.

i had the same plugs in my car for almost 2 years.......and it make 350whp+ and they still look fine.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i do it for me.. Not because they go bad.

ohsnapzafingcu

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FST GSR 1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The bare wires and mangled radiator hose in that pic just made me throw up in my mouth a little.</TD></TR></TABLE>

oh dont worry about the wires lol i wired it up to see if it worked before i wire loomed everything. and where can i get a hose that doesn't fit "mangled" like that? the dealership is an hour away

00b20vtecoupe

yeah those r the blues thats wat i have been running. they also sell power cables i believe supposedly better but r about 100 bux i think.

FST GSR 1

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oh dont worry about the wires lol i wired it up to see if it worked before i wire loomed everything. and where can i get a hose that doesn't fit "mangled" like that? the dealership is an hour away </TD></TR></TABLE>

If I am viewing things correctly it appears as if you have "2" ECT senders, one in the upper radiator housing on the block and one spliced into the hose. The hose splices are just awful IMO, but why the need for 2 senders?

ef1.8

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 00b20vtecoupe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah those r the blues thats wat i have been running. they also sell power cables i believe supposedly better but r about 100 bux i think. </TD></TR></TABLE>

The ones in the picture are actually the power cables.

FST GSR 1

The cheap NGK's have the black boots I think.

ef1.8

Yeah, and they are like 50 or so cheaper. But I belive the power cable is lower resistance?

I usually use ngk or sumitomo depending on availibility. Ive had 2 sets of msd and both have given me grief. Poor fit or suction to the distributer cap is one thing, but ive often had to crimp the terminals for an optimum fit to the plug and even spread the terminal to grab in the distributer cap socket. I guess just sums up to poor fit. #3 used to pop off all the time would drive me crazy, never zip tied it tho.

Im sure theres others that have had no probs whatso ever, but Ive def beat the odds with the 2 crap sets I got. Ngk never an issue. (for me)

What was it with ngk you said never again? just fit or...

FST GSR 1

They were brand new and when I went to check the plugs after a pass the crimped end came off the wire on two of them. This proposed 2 problems among the obvious anger, #1 I didn't have long needle nose with me to pull off the crimped end, therefore couldn't get a socket on them to pull the plugs or put another wire on. This was over 10 years ago BTW. I eventually got them out, don't remember how, put the OEM's back on (can't believe I was smart enough to bring them at that age) and drove it home.

00b20vtecoupe

yea they r the power cables, i thought the power cables were squared around the spark plug holes.

ef1.8

Its the little things like what you describe that I have NO patience for. HAHA.

Im not saying its the biggest deal to have to make some adjustments to some plug wires to get em to fit the way you want, I just dont think that should be necessary. Maybe this is a common thing for everyone to do regardless of brand.

FST GSR 1

I actually think the MSD's fit is actually very good compared to Taylor, Accel, off brand chain store versions etc. The annoyance is they dont like to stay on the cap posts because the boots are not serrated, zip-ties fix that. OEM's can be had for 75$. Worth it if you have a stock ignition and no external coil IMO.

IntegraType-R

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FST GSR 1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I actually think the MSD's fit is actually very good compared to Taylor, Accel, off brand chain store versions etc. The annoyance is they dont like to stay on the cap posts because the boots are not serrated, zip-ties fix that. OEM's can be had for 75$. Worth it if you have a stock ignition and no external coil IMO.</TD></TR></TABLE>
mine doesn't fall off

FST GSR 1

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mine doesn't fall off </TD></TR></TABLE>
Thats only because your car too slow.

GhostAccord

Sumitomo (OEM Accord) wires worked flawlessly with my Accel external coil. It's the OEM ignitor that doesn't fair so well with an ext. coil some times.

And I had absolutely no fitment problems with my Accel 300+ wires. I used the custom set that you cut to whatever length you want and install the crimp connectors yourself. I can see if someone mistakenly crushed/closed the connector tab. That may cause some loose fittings. But that is not the manufacturers fault.

Even if they do fit a bit on the lose side. You can stick a screwdriver in the distributor connector end. Push the pressure tab out (toward the insulating boot) to give it a snug fit. The MSD's are probably designed the same way. I'm not 100% because I've never used them. But you should here them click into the distributor, if you don't then that would be why they come loose.

ohsnapzafingcu

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FST GSR 1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

If I am viewing things correctly it appears as if you have "2" ECT senders, one in the upper radiator housing on the block and one spliced into the hose. The hose splices are just awful IMO, but why the need for 2 senders?</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah you are right, i didn't know u can splice into the stock ECT sender to an electric temp gauge? or am i wrong?

when you say the hose splice is 'awful' did u mean the unit it self (cutting between the hose) makes it awful or my job of doing it? ha i'm not offended i'm always up for peoples opinions and the better way to do things

FST GSR 1

No, no...At first glance it looked like you had 2 aftermarket senders wired up, one in the upper hose housing and one in the hose splice because I see red wires in both places. I am not a fan of splicing the radiator hoses, #1 it's not clean looking and you add 2 more hose clamps into a fluid line, #2 there's a great spot in the upper housing to tap and use.

IntegraType-R

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Thats only because your car too slow.</TD></TR></TABLE>

WOOWWWW LOL
Show this spot you say tap btw.. i wanna see the exact spot because i'm thinking about not splicing hoses

FST GSR 1

I'll get you a picture of mine and show ya tomorrow!

ohsnapzafingcu

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please do sir! im with it-r

2001B18C1GS-R

OEM IS ALL I USE I ORDER DIRECT FROM SONS ACURA OR DELRAY ACURA CHEAP couple of DOLLERS FOR WIRES THAT LAST a long time

b20vtech

OEM here, 293hp A/M B-series