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Not surprised by your comments about the lack of numbers. A couple of things: The Mugen Twin Loop you will lose power with one of those. Get the rest of the Toda System. You did no air improvements to your head. When you do you'll be looking for about 141 in Flow Numbers. With your CAI get an Ingen. I've seen 15 to 25hp with those. Surprisingly awesome for a bolt on. I de-tuned my NA, removed the Ingen and went back to a MS sucking off the Screen because I had a chassis imbalance (which is now fixed).
JDM SLEEP3R's idea, one place for all motor dyno graphs, post your setup and graph. That is all.
Do not comment on others posts, this is strictly a resource for dyno graphs. If you have a question, PM the person who posted the graph.
Thanks
Head p72 stock, 11.0.1 piston, skunk2 tuner 3 cams, intake skunk2 pro, throttle 68mm, b20 84mm, header plm Tri y big tube 2.5
this is my setup who can help me with the problem, I thing that make 220hp
Supertech 85 lb springs
Skunk2 Pro 1+ Cams
Mildly ported head (done by local machinist)
OEM b16a valves
OEM timing belt
OEM head gasket
1320 SMSP-style headers
60mm mandrel bent exhaust with Borla ProXS
Injen CA Intake (probably 2.25" or 2.5")
OEM b16a intake manifold and throttle body
Looking at the Torque I'd change gears at 8000. You would have a very handy over rev to put a pass on someone close to you. Plus you are not going any faster beyond 8. Still quite good numbers indeed.
Thanks everyone! Ya, I'm pleased with the level of power that this makes on pump gas with the parts I have at the moment. The tuner recommends a better flowing IM, TB, and intake for more power. Also e85 as 12:1 is a little high to be fully taken advantage of on pump gas.
As to the rev limiter, my ideal is to have the rpm within peak power after I shift to the next gear, so I like having maybe 1500-2000 rpm or so higher than peak power if I can.
Low cam Final pull.
B16 head
S2p2s
Full s2 valve train
Victor x
Dsm 440s
Itr rep header
B20b block
Bone stock.
A set of $68 bearings
250kmi rings.
242whp
157 ft-lbs
Choked out up top from the small header just installed a set of big tubes and some ignition upgrades will be making another go here soon.
Final pull.
B16 head
S2p2s
Full s2 valve train
Victor x
Dsm 440s
Itr rep header
B20b block
Bone stock.
A set of $68 bearings
250kmi rings.
242whp
157 ft-lbs
Choked out up top from the small header just installed a set of big tubes and some ignition upgrades will be making another go here soon.
Damn.. Thats really good numbers from such a simple setup. Did you degree in the cams??
since so many people are running sk2p2's I have blox p1's and there close in specs do you all run sk2 lost motion or stock?
I'm running the SK2 LMA with my Pro2s. I mainly made the change when i was building the head due to the fact i know how noisy the factory ones get when they are worn out..
Since Skunk2's LMAs are not available for the H22, I e-mailed them asking if OEMs would have any issues with the Pro 2s I got for my build. The exact reply I got from Douglas Haley at Group A Engineering (Kraft Werks/S2/Grams) was: "Yes, the OEM LMAs will work the the Pro2 cams."
Cross-referencing part numbers at the OEM parts sites, part# 14820-PCB-305 is listed as compatible with a '96 Prelude Si VTEC, '99 Civic Si, and '98 Integra GS-R. However, the '98 ITR uses part number 14820-P73-J01; not sure what that's about. No part number is listed as available for the fifth-gen Prelude. Also, doing a quick Google I'm finding decade-old forum posts talking about shimming required to use an H LMA in a B; anyone know what that's about, if they're the same? I've heard that it's recommended you install new LMAs any time you change cams, even for same-spec OEM if you did that for whatever reason, especially if your engine still has the old piston style installed.
Since Skunk2's LMAs are not available for the H22, I e-mailed them asking if OEMs would have any issues with the Pro 2s I got for my build. The exact reply I got from Douglas Haley at Group A Engineering (Kraft Werks/S2/Grams) was: "Yes, the OEM LMAs will work the the Pro2 cams."
Cross-referencing part numbers at the OEM parts sites, part# 14820-PCB-305 is listed as compatible with a '96 Prelude Si VTEC, '99 Civic Si, and '98 Integra GS-R. However, the '98 ITR uses part number 14820-P73-J01; not sure what that's about. No part number is listed as available for the fifth-gen Prelude. Also, doing a quick Google I'm finding decade-old forum posts talking about shimming required to use an H LMA in a B; anyone know what that's about, if they're the same? I've heard that it's recommended you install new LMAs any time you change cams, even for same-spec OEM if you did that for whatever reason, especially if your engine still has the old piston style installed.
I myself have heard of the need for a shim if you are going to use H series units in a B series. Slight difference in height, not much though. The funny thing is the Skunk2 LMAs take their design from the OEM H series units. I've never in my life heard of needing to change LMAs with every cam change. In all my 15+ years in the Honda scene I can count on 1 hand the instances people I know personally have changed LMA and have run big cams no problem. I only changed mine to the Skunk2 setup because I knew the piston style LMA that B series come with start to make noise when they are wearing out and i didnt want to deal with that in my fresh motor. The OEM H series will be just fine though, if you are so concerned get you a fresh set.
Stock 84mm bore
arp bottom end
Stock rods
RS itr piston
B16 head
Bad Guys stage 2 port package
Supertech flat valves
Rocket m24xx cams
Rocket springs
Ported skunk2 ultra street
70mm tb
Aem hybrid cai
plm sp tri y header
2.5 mandrel bent exhaust with 22" resonator and 26" muffler routed oem path (VERY quiet, catches everyone off guard)
Tuned on e85 by MNTuning at Race FWD, dynojet on winpep 8 software.
221 hp / 148 tq @ 8300 rpm
Last edited by TeamRedline89Hatch; 03-06-2020 at 11:49 AM.
100% internally-stock B16A3
Comptech replica header
eBay 3" intake
Test pipe
Skunk2 Mega Power 60 mm exhaust
Coil-on-plug conversion
Link G4X plug and play tuned on 93 octane by George at H-Car in San Antonio
155.1 WHP / 114.2 ft-lbs
Baseline on Hondata S300 and stock ignition was 137/99 on the same dyno. Next mods: Toda header (already installed, post dyno session), Spec A cams, valve springs, cam gears, Blox LMAs, and a re-tune.
Last edited by SubCultureNM; 10-20-2022 at 10:17 AM.
Car looked great at the dragon meet. Nice numbers on the b16 as well!
Originally Posted by SubCultureNM
100% internally-stock B16A3
Comptech replica header
eBay 3" intake
Test pipe
Skunk2 Mega Power 60 mm exhaust
Coil-on-plug conversion
Link G4X plug and play tuned on 93 octane by George at H-Car in San Antonio
155.1 WHP / 114.2 ft-lbs
Baseline on Hondata S300 and stock ignition was 137/99 on the same dyno. Next mods: Toda header (already installed, post dyno session), Spec A cams, valve springs, cam gears, Blox LMAs, and a re-tune.
11-17-2018, 11:40 PM
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