more potential: h22 or b18c5
01-09-2004, 07:28 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by h22mark »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Now I'm not quite sure if you mean that the there is no such thing as a Type S model Prelude, because there is and it does have 220hp, check out http://www.jdmhondaparts.com, and http://www.hmotorsonline.com and look up the specs on the Red Top h22
, now either I am wrong or they are wrong. But I don't know what kinda of motors they send to your shop but thats what I found maybe you got a different motor at your shop. But like I said before we should compare Red Top versus Red Top, not Red Top versus Black top because thats like comparing Type S h22, with GSR b18 wouldn't be same category, but hey thats me... 
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How did you not understand what I meant the first time?
Yes the Type S exists and yes it had a red valvecover, but it has the ATTS tranny. That tranny is basically useless to those looking to put the complete swap into a Civic and most likely Accords too.
I understand that the Type S exists, but it's not what everyone says it is. It does not come with a usable LSD tranny in terms of swaps into Civics/Accords.
I habve seen a real Type S swap in person and went through hell trying to return it to Osaka because they messed up and sent us the Type S when I asked for the "S Spec" which is different. The S Spec has the same 220ps, but has the usable tranny, not some ATTS box that we hybriders cannot use.
Does that make more sense?
Now I'm not quite sure if you mean that the there is no such thing as a Type S model Prelude, because there is and it does have 220hp, check out http://www.jdmhondaparts.com, and http://www.hmotorsonline.com and look up the specs on the Red Top h22
, now either I am wrong or they are wrong. But I don't know what kinda of motors they send to your shop but thats what I found maybe you got a different motor at your shop. But like I said before we should compare Red Top versus Red Top, not Red Top versus Black top because thats like comparing Type S h22, with GSR b18 wouldn't be same category, but hey thats me... . </TD></TR></TABLE>How did you not understand what I meant the first time?
Yes the Type S exists and yes it had a red valvecover, but it has the ATTS tranny. That tranny is basically useless to those looking to put the complete swap into a Civic and most likely Accords too.
I understand that the Type S exists, but it's not what everyone says it is. It does not come with a usable LSD tranny in terms of swaps into Civics/Accords.
I habve seen a real Type S swap in person and went through hell trying to return it to Osaka because they messed up and sent us the Type S when I asked for the "S Spec" which is different. The S Spec has the same 220ps, but has the usable tranny, not some ATTS box that we hybriders cannot use.
Does that make more sense?
01-09-2004, 10:22 AM
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Oh ok I understand, sorry about the confusion, but yeah that is true about the tranny with the ATTS, won't really fit in the hybrid setup unless you do some modification beyond the normal h22 swap. Thanks for clearing that up.
02-09-2004, 08:24 AM
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Re: more potential: h22 or b18c5 (ek_jeremy)
i personaly own a h22 powered eg and it pulls. but at the same time my freind has a c5 powered ek hatch also....i've driven both and i'd say they're equally fast....except mine's fatser due to my head work and cams and wut not. but over all the tourque of the h22 is horrible on launch...nuttin but wheel spin...it's good to have the tourque but all it is is useless power when u can't even get it onto the ground. but i'd say to try to experience both also as wut they said.
02-09-2004, 02:20 PM
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Re: (B18C5-EH2)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18C5-EH2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
How did you not understand what I meant the first time?
Yes the Type S exists and yes it had a red valvecover, but it has the ATTS tranny. That tranny is basically useless to those looking to put the complete swap into a Civic and most likely Accords too.
I understand that the Type S exists, but it's not what everyone says it is. It does not come with a usable LSD tranny in terms of swaps into Civics/Accords.
I habve seen a real Type S swap in person and went through hell trying to return it to Osaka because they messed up and sent us the Type S when I asked for the "S Spec" which is different. The S Spec has the same 220ps, but has the usable tranny, not some ATTS box that we hybriders cannot use.
Does that make more sense?</TD></TR></TABLE>
For reference here's a couple good threads on this stuff I made
Blue/Red Top H22a Catalog: F20B, Type-S, Sir S-spec, H23A VTEC, Euro-R, Type-R
SiR S-Spec LSD tranny code - Full H22a list inside!
The s-spec tranny code is M2Z4, and yeah ATTS sucks! If you want a type-s swap, Euro-R or Type-R Accord H22a's are where it's at, because the tranny is so good.
How did you not understand what I meant the first time?
Yes the Type S exists and yes it had a red valvecover, but it has the ATTS tranny. That tranny is basically useless to those looking to put the complete swap into a Civic and most likely Accords too.
I understand that the Type S exists, but it's not what everyone says it is. It does not come with a usable LSD tranny in terms of swaps into Civics/Accords.
I habve seen a real Type S swap in person and went through hell trying to return it to Osaka because they messed up and sent us the Type S when I asked for the "S Spec" which is different. The S Spec has the same 220ps, but has the usable tranny, not some ATTS box that we hybriders cannot use.
Does that make more sense?</TD></TR></TABLE>
For reference here's a couple good threads on this stuff I made
Blue/Red Top H22a Catalog: F20B, Type-S, Sir S-spec, H23A VTEC, Euro-R, Type-R
SiR S-Spec LSD tranny code - Full H22a list inside!
The s-spec tranny code is M2Z4, and yeah ATTS sucks! If you want a type-s swap, Euro-R or Type-R Accord H22a's are where it's at, because the tranny is so good.
02-02-2005, 01:54 PM
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Re: more potential: h22 or b18c5 (SilverEk3dr)
the car: 1998 GSR B18c STOCK INTERNALS
Mileage: 125,000 NOS direct port 75 or 100 jet system since 50k
Compression tested at 125,000 VERY good psi on all 4 cylandars. Not much lower then stock.
Concusion: You can't kill a B18 without trying/idiocy.
I'm still trying to decide on B18b or H22 tho.
Mileage: 125,000 NOS direct port 75 or 100 jet system since 50k
Compression tested at 125,000 VERY good psi on all 4 cylandars. Not much lower then stock.
Concusion: You can't kill a B18 without trying/idiocy.
I'm still trying to decide on B18b or H22 tho.
02-22-2005, 06:34 PM
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Re: more potential: h22 or b18c5 (Candyh22EG)
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03-02-2005, 12:01 PM
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Re: more potential: h22 or b18c5 (LsVtec92Hatch)
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04-29-2006, 10:28 AM
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Re: more potential: h22 or b18c5 (ekay_jeremy)
I just got a hold of an H22a EG... I all i have to say is damn... Running wit a m2f4 tranny with a obx lsd installed, motor has some bolt-ons... The car pulls really hard first and second gears, then laggs a bit in third. But still a very funn ride.
I have also ridden in my homeboys b-series turbo ek... and all i have to say about that is wow, it just rides so much smoother...
I agree with b-series having more poenial... but it depends on what your looking for, i would take either
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I have also ridden in my homeboys b-series turbo ek... and all i have to say about that is wow, it just rides so much smoother...
I agree with b-series having more poenial... but it depends on what your looking for, i would take either
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09-14-2007, 03:13 PM
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Re: more potential: h22 or b18c5 (TeamRiskEG6)
h2b...no questions asked...recently tested a b18c = JDM INTEGRA TYPE R MOTOR inside an EK...raced it with my heavy lude with no traction first, second, third through shifts..id say i did awesome all though you can tell in the gearing and rpm difference due to the 8500rpm which on that particular one he took to 9000rpms i did good with the fact that he had major traction through gears. also been in h2b hatch no questions asked b18c vs h2b would be a waste of time for the h2b not that im singling them out just NO it would be over.
09-15-2007, 06:42 AM
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Re: more potential: h22 or b18c5 (k_lude)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by k_lude »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">h2b...no questions asked...recently tested a b18c = JDM INTEGRA TYPE R MOTOR inside an EK...raced it with my heavy lude with no traction first, second, third through shifts..id say i did awesome all though you can tell in the gearing and rpm difference due to the 8500rpm which on that particular one he took to 9000rpms i did good with the fact that he had major traction through gears. also been in h2b hatch no questions asked b18c vs h2b would be a waste of time for the h2b not that im singling them out just NO it would be over.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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09-15-2007, 08:54 AM
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Re: more potential: h22 or b18c5 (gibsanez)
i dont see the b18c5 make as much streetable hp and torque as a h series.
but it is sure fun revving to 10,000 rpms
but it is sure fun revving to 10,000 rpms
09-15-2007, 09:25 AM
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Re: more potential: h22 or b18c5 (alterdcreations)
Holy old post...
Show me a "B" that can do this all motor.
Here is the dyno... Last years 272whp/208.3wtq 83 degree temps (dotted lines)
This years 283.8whp/213.56wtq 100 degree temps (solid lines)
12.5/1 compression 2.4ltr SKpro2 cams 50mm ITBs Tuned at Locash Racing.
Show me a "B" that can do this all motor.
Here is the dyno... Last years 272whp/208.3wtq 83 degree temps (dotted lines)
This years 283.8whp/213.56wtq 100 degree temps (solid lines)
12.5/1 compression 2.4ltr SKpro2 cams 50mm ITBs Tuned at Locash Racing.
09-15-2007, 10:07 AM
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Re: more potential: h22 or b18c5 (2point6)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2point6 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Holy old post...
Show me a "B" that can do this all motor.
Here is the dyno... Last years 272whp/208.3wtq 83 degree temps (dotted lines)
This years 283.8whp/213.56wtq 100 degree temps (solid lines)
12.5/1 compression 2.4ltr SKpro2 cams 50mm ITBs Tuned at Locash Racing.
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Haha! ^^^^ owns thread!
Show me a "B" that can do this all motor.
Here is the dyno... Last years 272whp/208.3wtq 83 degree temps (dotted lines)
This years 283.8whp/213.56wtq 100 degree temps (solid lines)
12.5/1 compression 2.4ltr SKpro2 cams 50mm ITBs Tuned at Locash Racing.
</TD></TR></TABLE>Haha! ^^^^ owns thread!
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