The differences & Nuances between the B18B1 & B18C1 bottom end Engine Blocks
05-17-2009, 05:56 PM
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The differences & Nuances between the B18B1 & B18C1 bottom end Engine Blocks
Ok, im wanting to start my bottom end build and found a killer deal on a B18B1 bare block . Wanting to if anyone has a link to compare the 2 blocks. Im wanting to build an all motor GSR and wondering if this bottom end will be the same as the GSR bottom end.
05-17-2009, 07:48 PM
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I can tell you that they are not the same. The B18B has larger cylinders (I believe) and therefore larger displacement. Also, with the B18B not being a VTEC block it doesn't have the oil squirters and other things.
05-17-2009, 08:01 PM
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same bore 81mm both blocks, and ls has no oil squirters, the ls crank is what makes the larger displacement, and the ls block has no girdle , the gsr one has girdle
05-17-2009, 08:17 PM
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use the gsr block and use ls rods and crankshaft with type r pistons that will be a good combo
05-18-2009, 06:32 AM
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Why would you want to use the LS rods in a GSR? Because the ls rods are so much weaker and ARP rod bolts help the rods but still they are still weak...if you get this GSR block with a gsr crank and rods don't use the ls rods
05-18-2009, 09:40 AM
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holly ****! This thread is FULL of wrong information.
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05-18-2009, 07:40 PM
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Then why don't you bless us all with your infinte wisdom on this subject and tell us the best way to go with each block and why the use of Ls internals in a gsr block is done. Along with cr, reliability, diffrence in stroke, and components that are interchangeable between the two to make reliability, oem pistons that can be used to bump up compression? Rather than say everyone is an idiot, show us how smart you are.
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re: The differences & Nuances between the B18B1 & B18C1 bottom end Engine Blocks
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_B_engine
http://www.hondatuningmagazine.com/t...ine/index.html
Also don't forget budget. If you're working on a tight one and you can get a B18B block in good condition for cheaper than a B18C then you can use the extra money to squeeze out some more power.
http://www.hondatuningmagazine.com/t...ine/index.html
Also don't forget budget. If you're working on a tight one and you can get a B18B block in good condition for cheaper than a B18C then you can use the extra money to squeeze out some more power.
05-18-2009, 11:31 PM
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Then why don't you bless us all with your infinte wisdom on this subject and tell us the best way to go with each block and why the use of Ls internals in a gsr block is done. Along with cr, reliability, diffrence in stroke, and components that are interchangeable between the two to make reliability, oem pistons that can be used to bump up compression? Rather than say everyone is an idiot, show us how smart you are.
this thread is full of FAIL.
if you want a good pump gas motor doing a gsr block with ls rods and crank and b16 pistons you end up with about 11.5 to 1 cr with a gsr head. you get the benefit of the oil squirters and block girdle. as long as its built right it will be reliable. but you gotta remeber the second you pull an oem motor apart and start modding it for more power you are sacraficing reliability. the ls crank benefits because its a tiny bit longer in stroke being that its 89mm stroke and a gsr is 87.2, you only get a tiny bit of cc's bigger displacement but a longer stroke motor almost always has a better powerband.
but honestly if you dont know what your getting into building a motor, then I would highly suggest taking alot of time and doing research befor you get a head of your self and figure out it costs way too much and run out of cash to build it.
05-19-2009, 01:37 PM
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this thread is full of FAIL.
if you want a good pump gas motor doing a gsr block with ls rods and crank and b16 pistons you end up with about 11.5 to 1 cr with a gsr head. you get the benefit of the oil squirters and block girdle. as long as its built right it will be reliable. but you gotta remeber the second you pull an oem motor apart and start modding it for more power you are sacraficing reliability. the ls crank benefits because its a tiny bit longer in stroke being that its 89mm stroke and a gsr is 87.2, you only get a tiny bit of cc's bigger displacement but a longer stroke motor almost always has a better powerband.
but honestly if you dont know what your getting into building a motor, then I would highly suggest taking alot of time and doing research befor you get a head of your self and figure out it costs way too much and run out of cash to build it.
if you want a good pump gas motor doing a gsr block with ls rods and crank and b16 pistons you end up with about 11.5 to 1 cr with a gsr head. you get the benefit of the oil squirters and block girdle. as long as its built right it will be reliable. but you gotta remeber the second you pull an oem motor apart and start modding it for more power you are sacraficing reliability. the ls crank benefits because its a tiny bit longer in stroke being that its 89mm stroke and a gsr is 87.2, you only get a tiny bit of cc's bigger displacement but a longer stroke motor almost always has a better powerband.
but honestly if you dont know what your getting into building a motor, then I would highly suggest taking alot of time and doing research befor you get a head of your self and figure out it costs way too much and run out of cash to build it.
05-19-2009, 03:22 PM
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Then why don't you bless us all with your infinte wisdom on this subject and tell us the best way to go with each block and why the use of Ls internals in a gsr block is done. Along with cr, reliability, diffrence in stroke, and components that are interchangeable between the two to make reliability, oem pistons that can be used to bump up compression? Rather than say everyone is an idiot, show us how smart you are.
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Then why don't you bless us all with your infinte wisdom on this subject and tell us the best way to go with each block and why the use of Ls internals in a gsr block is done. Along with cr, reliability, diffrence in stroke, and components that are interchangeable between the two to make reliability, oem pistons that can be used to bump up compression? Rather than say everyone is an idiot, show us how smart you are.
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