Any 200+whp B16s (not OMNIMAN)
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He has a greddy header on the car it will make 200whp with a replica hytech header and 3inch exhaust.
He doesn't need different cams.
And also the b20 that lost tq what was the complete setup. If u could post up a dyno graph/ a/f of that lossing tq and state the specs of the build compression and all i could tell u y it lost tq. It could have lost tq do to the tuner not enough timing in that area of the map or a/f is off could even be that the cam gears were not in the right sweet spot .
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Re: Any 200+whp B16s (not OMNIMAN)
I know the primary's are bigger were are talking about peak hp so the primary's would be not be relevant in this state of the argument.
He has a greddy header on the car it will make 200whp with a replica hytech header and 3inch exhaust.
He doesn't need different cams.
And also the b20 that lost tq what was the complete setup. If u could post up a dyno graph/ a/f of that lossing tq and state the specs of the build compression and all i could tell u y it lost tq. It could have lost tq do to the tuner not enough timing in that area of the map or a/f is off could even be that the cam gears were not in the right sweet spot .
He has a greddy header on the car it will make 200whp with a replica hytech header and 3inch exhaust.
He doesn't need different cams.
And also the b20 that lost tq what was the complete setup. If u could post up a dyno graph/ a/f of that lossing tq and state the specs of the build compression and all i could tell u y it lost tq. It could have lost tq do to the tuner not enough timing in that area of the map or a/f is off could even be that the cam gears were not in the right sweet spot .
watisjdm provide graph..otherwise take your bunkass advice with no proof and get lost..
b20vtec's losing power with pro2's? ...i went from tuner2's to pro2s..trust me..my neck never leaves the back of the seat now..
i'm not sitting in the car going.. watch for vtec this bitch is going to scream for 6k rpms..power is direct on my foot now and even MORE when vtec transitions over.
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Re: Any 200+whp B16s (not OMNIMAN)
well maybe his tune was just all screwed up, it was just a friend
i used skunk2 tuner 2's in my b16 and pulled awesome, my b16 ef pulls much harder now tho
JDM B16a Phantasm 207 whp Dyno Pull on Flickr - Photo Sharing!
i used skunk2 tuner 2's in my b16 and pulled awesome, my b16 ef pulls much harder now tho
JDM B16a Phantasm 207 whp Dyno Pull on Flickr - Photo Sharing!
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If you are talking about the dimple/pore in the squish area I know. There were some pores in the weld, but we did not have time to get it re welded. Also the camera blitz make them look a bit bigger than they are.
If this head will be used on the new b20vtec we will fix it, also port it out a bit more, and make more room around the valves because of the 84.5mm bore.
will probably change the valve to (run stock b16a valves now).
well maybe his tune was just all screwed up, it was just a friend
i used skunk2 tuner 2's in my b16 and pulled awesome, my b16 ef pulls much harder now tho
JDM B16a Phantasm 207 whp Dyno Pull on Flickr - Photo Sharing!
i used skunk2 tuner 2's in my b16 and pulled awesome, my b16 ef pulls much harder now tho
JDM B16a Phantasm 207 whp Dyno Pull on Flickr - Photo Sharing!
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Re: Any 200+whp B16s (not OMNIMAN)
Hi.
If you are talking about the dimple/pore in the squish area I know. There were some pores in the weld, but we did not have time to get it re welded. Also the camera blitz make them look a bit bigger than they are.
If this head will be used on the new b20vtec we will fix it, also port it out a bit more, and make more room around the valves because of the 84.5mm bore.
will probably change the valve to (run stock b16a valves now).
So you made 207whp on 81mm b16 with tuner 2's, or was that with Jun 3's?
If you are talking about the dimple/pore in the squish area I know. There were some pores in the weld, but we did not have time to get it re welded. Also the camera blitz make them look a bit bigger than they are.
If this head will be used on the new b20vtec we will fix it, also port it out a bit more, and make more room around the valves because of the 84.5mm bore.
will probably change the valve to (run stock b16a valves now).
So you made 207whp on 81mm b16 with tuner 2's, or was that with Jun 3's?
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Re: Any 200+whp B16s (not OMNIMAN)
LoL....No guidance needed. I just have a distinctive approach when it comes to tuning Hondas. The B16A, B16B, F20C and F20B platforms fall within that distinction.
Cheers for being open minded mate.
Yes, you do need a single slam to compete with a B16A. It is an inferior engine. However, I would NOT ridicule you if you decided to make that choice. Everyone has a preference. Currently, I am partial to the F20B in my Accord SiR-T.
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Re: Any 200+whp B16s (not OMNIMAN)
I absolutly love the mighty B16, such a wicked motor to spin to redline everytime. The problem with a lot of people is they either dont give them the chance because they listen to what other internet folks says or they have never driven a well build/well tuned b16 as it is meant to be driven (to the limit around a track)
Glad to hear you have a pretty stout 85mm b16 build in the forecast
Glad to hear you have a pretty stout 85mm b16 build in the forecast
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Re: Any 200+whp B16s (not OMNIMAN)
dude im telling you man its so hard to hit 200 whp lol im so close dude 196whp thats the closes. the head is not ported the block is not ported either only thing i cahnge is the piston to a ctr piston and shot ping the rods iono why i did that but i did it. check my set up out see if you like it. pretty expensive though but yea its fun i change dc header to hytech rage small tube tri-y header and straight pipe 2 half inch all the way back to a tanabe medallion. iono check my **** out. PEACE i love b16
Im almost there too on the stock port head 188whp but my clutch started to slip on the dyno after several runs so we couldnt finish tuning the cams
I should be at the 200 mark soon enough
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