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TheRappist 06-02-2009 06:48 PM

240 whp 2.0 LS/VTEC. Done.
 
This is what detonation looks like and how it destroys a brand new fully built engine in less then 30 miles. Apon detonation, the head lifted up off the block, and blew metal into all 4 cylinders.

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1.5Slowmatic 06-02-2009 06:51 PM

Re: 240 whp 2.0 LS/VTEC. Done.
 
ouch. whats the plans now

OH_1fstgsr 06-02-2009 06:55 PM

Re: 240 whp 2.0 LS/VTEC. Done.
 
What was the root cause?
injectors to small?
fuel pump failed?
fuel pressure n/g?
bad tune?
Fill us in, so others may learn.

TheRappist 06-02-2009 06:57 PM

Re: 240 whp 2.0 LS/VTEC. Done.
 
Boost FTW. Bottom end is GE knfie Edge crank, sleeved, Eagle H beam rods, everything excpect pistons are perfect, can still see the hone.

The reason this happened is becasue this store lied to and sold me 108 ocatane when I need 110 because he hates imports. So yea. Tune was great. Just the asshole who sold me the fuel.

Teamdiesel 06-02-2009 07:07 PM

Re: 240 whp 2.0 LS/VTEC. Done.
 
what was your setup and compression?

Teamdiesel 06-02-2009 07:09 PM

Re: 240 whp 2.0 LS/VTEC. Done.
 
It also looks more like a dropped valve than detonation to me.

Conan the Destroyer 06-02-2009 07:18 PM

Re: 240 whp 2.0 LS/VTEC. Done.
 
dump the pistons, buy a 895 dollar endyn head and an AFI kit and youll have a turn ket 500hp car, or a buckin bronco rodeo ride, however you want to look at it

dlaub25 06-02-2009 07:31 PM

Re: 240 whp 2.0 LS/VTEC. Done.
 

Originally Posted by Teamdiesel (Post 38763063)
It also looks more like a dropped valve than detonation to me.

X2

TheRappist 06-02-2009 07:33 PM

Re: 240 whp 2.0 LS/VTEC. Done.
 

Originally Posted by dlaub25 (Post 38763391)
X2

Yea, it deff did. We are looking into if it just dropped a valve, or dropped a valve due to detonation.

1.5Slowmatic 06-02-2009 07:33 PM

Re: 240 whp 2.0 LS/VTEC. Done.
 
i dont thing the 2 octane point difference caused that since the points can vary up and down by a few, something failed in the motor like stated above

.Hatches. 06-02-2009 07:33 PM

Re: 240 whp 2.0 LS/VTEC. Done.
 

Originally Posted by TheRappist (Post 38762893)
Boost FTW. Bottom end is GE knfie Edge crank, sleeved, Eagle H beam rods, everything excpect pistons are perfect, can still see the hone.

The reason this happened is becasue this store lied to and sold me 108 ocatane when I need 110 because he hates imports. So yea. Tune was great. Just the asshole who sold me the fuel.

That cannot be from 2 octane points.

hai_tech 06-02-2009 07:35 PM

Re: 240 whp 2.0 LS/VTEC. Done.
 
damm!!!

GetEfdupEH 06-02-2009 07:36 PM

Re: 240 whp 2.0 LS/VTEC. Done.
 
****kkk man, was it tuned with confidence?

TheRappist 06-02-2009 07:39 PM

Re: 240 whp 2.0 LS/VTEC. Done.
 

Originally Posted by 1.5Slowmatic (Post 38763422)
i dont thing the 2 octane point difference caused that since the points can vary up and down by a few, something failed in the motor like stated above

Yea, I forgot to state in the orginal post, that we are leaning more towards it dropping a valve, but how would every cylinder have metal shavings in them when all they are all fine? Thats why we are curious about the whole detonation

98vtec 06-02-2009 08:02 PM

Re: 240 whp 2.0 LS/VTEC. Done.
 
i dont see the head lifting enough with 240whp to allow metal from one cylinder to get to all 4. Did only one valve head drop?

mtber 06-02-2009 09:44 PM

Re: 240 whp 2.0 LS/VTEC. Done.
 

Originally Posted by TheRappist (Post 38763412)
Yea, it deff did. We are looking into if it just dropped a valve, or dropped a valve due to detonation.

You don't drop a valve due to detonation.
The pictures shown are of a motor which was destroyed due to a dropped valve....

omniman 06-02-2009 09:51 PM

Re: 240 whp 2.0 LS/VTEC. Done.
 
man with all the engine failures i might have to get back into the engine building business, looks like most of the people that do it now just plain suck.

98vtec 06-02-2009 10:02 PM

Re: 240 whp 2.0 LS/VTEC. Done.
 
non claying bitches!!

mtber 06-02-2009 10:07 PM

Re: 240 whp 2.0 LS/VTEC. Done.
 

Originally Posted by omniman (Post 38765161)
man with all the engine failures i might have to get back into the engine building business, looks like most of the people that do it now just plain suck.

lol


Originally Posted by 98vtec (Post 38765313)
non claying bitches!!

Cam gears...??? SET IT AND FORGET IT!!!
Cook a chicken dinner in 15 minutes!

98vtec 06-02-2009 10:09 PM

Re: 240 whp 2.0 LS/VTEC. Done.
 

Originally Posted by mtber (Post 38765375)
Cam gears...??? SET IT AND FORGET IT!!!
Cook a chicken dinner in 15 minutes!

for only 3 easy payments and 19 dollars and 95 cents.

SuperTwinz 06-02-2009 10:12 PM

Re: 240 whp 2.0 LS/VTEC. Done.
 

Originally Posted by TheRappist (Post 38763487)
how would every cylinder have metal shavings in them when all they are all fine? Thats why we are curious about the whole detonation

Your intake manifold did that to the rest of the cylinders.

mtber 06-02-2009 10:14 PM

Re: 240 whp 2.0 LS/VTEC. Done.
 

Originally Posted by 98vtec (Post 38765403)
for only 3 easy payments and 19 dollars and 95 cents.

Order in the next 10 minutes & get a free broken retainer!


Back on topic.... Sorry to see the destruction of your motor due to a piston to valve or valve to valve issue... Could have also been a faulty retainer install etc.

Teamdiesel 06-03-2009 02:50 AM

Re: 240 whp 2.0 LS/VTEC. Done.
 
Again, what was your compression?

Furyof4 06-03-2009 04:04 AM

Re: 240 whp 2.0 LS/VTEC. Done.
 
Sorry for your loss. If you post some actual details of the build we may be able to help you figure out how/why it happened so you don't do it again.

What cams?
What valvetrain?
What compression?
Were v2v and p2v checked?

kp 06-03-2009 05:38 AM

Re: 240 whp 2.0 LS/VTEC. Done.
 

Originally Posted by SuperTwinz (Post 38765438)
Your intake manifold did that to the rest of the cylinders.


Excuse my ignorance...how?


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