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b20vtech 03-10-2006 10:17 PM

***Official All-Motor Stock Sleeve B20VTEC Thread***
 
list of mods, how much whp it made, how long it lasted,and time slips.......

b20vtech 03-11-2006 07:18 PM

Re: post ur all-motor stock sleeves b20vtec builds (b20vtech)
 
anyone?

GIZZ - EXV 03-12-2006 01:11 AM

Re: post ur all-motor stock sleeves b20vtec builds (b20vtech)
 
84mm, 12.5:1. .5mm os ferreas, toda b int cam, itr exh. also tried the stg 3 comp exh cam. toda springs. je pistons, eagle rods, arp everywhere, jg intake mani, dc 2.5 colletor header, bbk70mm tb, aem ems, 255hp walboro, holley fpr, 31lbs inj, act 6puck. abused for 42,000kms then i pulled it apart. best et was 12.71, high mph was 108. 92 hb weighed 2200lbs w me in it. very consistant, 2 of the last days at the track made it around 20 back to back consecutive 12 second runs. the car got way faster after this but never made it back to the track, or dyno.

itr trans through 4 gears, with 20 and 22" mt


b20vtech 03-12-2006 10:14 AM

Re: post ur all-motor stock sleeves b20vtec builds (GIZZ - EXV)
 
was it tuned when you ran 12.7? if so, how much whp did u make?

GIZZ - EXV 03-12-2006 10:48 AM

Re: post ur all-motor stock sleeves b20vtec builds (b20vtech)
 
initially no, i ran those times on a stk p72 and also jdm p30. stock limiter and didnt idle like stock until the aem ems, i used dynomaths and ran slightly better timeslips with a worse cam setup, got it all sorted out with way more power everywhere but never did go back to the track.

no idea of whp, id guess at 200 or so. datalogging and dynomaths good enough for me. besides, most peoples dyno plots up here in vancouver B.C. read high by like 15-25%

GHOSTFACE EG 03-12-2006 10:54 AM

Re: post ur all-motor stock sleeves b20vtec builds (GIZZ - EXV)
 
84.5 stock sleeve 11.5 comp wiesco piston, eagle rods, gsr portflow head, skunk2 manifold, skunk2 stage 2 cams, hondata , anr header, stock gsr tranny.
The motor made 215hp, 150 lbs, went 12.80 in 94 teg, daily driven on pump gas!!!!
It lasted a full year of daily driving and beating it up hard on weekends!!!



b20vtech 03-12-2006 05:44 PM

Re: post ur all-motor stock sleeves b20vtec builds (El Natural EG)
 
SHOULDn't ur motor make more than 215whp?

chad 03-12-2006 05:58 PM

Re: post ur all-motor stock sleeves b20vtec builds (b20vtech)
 
b20
84.5 mm
endyne rollerwave 11.5 compression
eagle long rods
pnp b16 head
itr tbody
itr intake manifold
toda c's
toda header
power FC

220 and 160

this plot is same cept for the header it was JDM header but plot with toda header has more power sooner

http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/we...MXk1NDE%3D.jpg

90DAkid 03-12-2006 06:02 PM

loving the trq curve man *chad*

faSHOwidIT 03-12-2006 06:04 PM

Re: post ur all-motor stock sleeves b20vtec builds (chad)
 
yes how long did they last before the sleeves cracked?

chad 03-12-2006 06:12 PM

Re: post ur all-motor stock sleeves b20vtec builds (faSHOwidIT)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by faSHOwidIT &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yes how long did they last before the sleeves cracked?</TD></TR></TABLE>

daily driving and drag racing is fine

road racing this will not work....i cracked sleeves on 3 b20s with stock parts at 84.25 with stock bottomend pistons out of the hole 15thou for mad compression...



b20vtech 03-12-2006 06:24 PM

Re: post ur all-motor stock sleeves b20vtec builds (chad)
 
woh, im sure u got plenty of experience with b20's.....how fast it goes on the track with the setup u got?

getgot22 03-12-2006 06:58 PM

Re: post ur all-motor stock sleeves b20vtec builds (b20vtech)
 
b20 84.5mm 11.5:1 JE
b16a head
skunk2 stage 3 cams
Rocket Gen 2 springs Omni Retainers
Megan Header
ITR LSD
rc 310
EVO 8 fuel pump 190lph
AEBS intake manifold
64mm TB
Tuned with Crome
214.9hp
147.3tq

2700lbs with me in it
https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...s/emthdown.gif

chad 03-12-2006 06:59 PM

Re: post ur all-motor stock sleeves b20vtec builds (b20vtech)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b20vtech &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">woh, im sure u got plenty of experience with b20's.....how fast it goes on the track with the setup u got?</TD></TR></TABLE>

never got it to 1/4 mile....

that engine is for sale...has 100 miles on it!!!!!!

GHOSTFACE EG 03-12-2006 07:48 PM

Re: post ur all-motor stock sleeves b20vtec builds (b20vtech)
 
It made 215 on bubbas dyno, when i was in santa clarita!!!!

b20vtech 03-13-2006 08:39 AM

Re: post ur all-motor stock sleeves b20vtec builds (getgot22)
 
is ur b16 head ported?

mxpx035 03-14-2006 05:07 PM

Re: post ur all-motor stock sleeves b20vtec builds (b20vtech)
 
Here is my setup

B20z Short Block
B16 Head Mild Port And Polish
titanium springs ansd retainers
GSR Valves
GSR Cams
TWM 50MM ITBS
Prelude Injectors
Custom Header Tech Header with 3" collector
Gutted 3" cat
3" thermal catback
P28 ECU with Hondata S200

WHP 212.6
TQ 165.5

http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/we...ZkMzF5NTQx.jpg

Han Solo 03-14-2006 06:13 PM

Re: post ur all-motor stock sleeves b20vtec builds (mxpx035)
 
something doesnt seem right. i mean not to be rude or anything but there are people with VERY similar setups making 240hp, so what is the difference?

chad 03-14-2006 06:34 PM

Re: post ur all-motor stock sleeves b20vtec builds (KINGSOL18)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by KINGSOL18 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">something doesnt seem right. i mean not to be rude or anything but there are people with VERY similar setups making 240hp, so what is the difference?</TD></TR></TABLE>


duh different dynos!!!!

GIZZ - EXV 03-14-2006 06:36 PM

Re: post ur all-motor stock sleeves b20vtec builds (KINGSOL18)
 
his hp sounds good for the engine, its just over 10:1 with gsr cams. prolly didnt need the itb's, retainers and the 3" exh to do that but whatever.

JERKSiRcoupe 03-14-2006 07:05 PM

Re: post ur all-motor stock sleeves b20vtec builds (GIZZ - EXV)
 
great thread b20vtecs 200+whp https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif

mxpx035 03-16-2006 11:44 AM

Re: post ur all-motor stock sleeves b20vtec builds (JERK ONE)
 
well i am pretty sure the cams are killing me and it is running really rich, it needs to be re-tuned really bad just through it on the dyno to see what it would do because i have a a good hook up. and i just switched the exhaust and lost 30 whp all the way across the board. i installed a 60mm rsr exmag because i couldn't stand the thermal, now it sounds awsome but need it tunned even more but i belive i will get about 15 to 20hp out of retuning it so it would put me back to 200 which is perfect for my daily driver.

Show me some dyno graphs with the list of mods, because it seems hard to get 240whp on gsr cams. because i want to install cams and pistons but don't want to sleeve my block
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by KINGSOL18 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">something doesnt seem right. i mean not to be rude or anything but there are people with VERY similar setups making 240hp, so what is the difference?</TD></TR></TABLE>

existanzcivicb20 03-16-2006 11:56 AM

Re: post ur all-motor stock sleeves b20vtec builds (mxpx035)
 
b20b with gsr head

skunk2 valves
skunk2 springs
skunk2 retainers
skunk2 pro1 cams
skunk2 pro gears
block girdle
jdmshit intake manifold
exedy clutch and pressure plat
fidenza fly wheel (7.5)

not all together yet im working on it just want to get some pistons first may be some ITR pistons but ill keep you guys updated ill put it together in like 2 weeks and ILL break it in and take it to get tuned and ill let you guy no

Han Solo 03-16-2006 01:03 PM

Re: post ur all-motor stock sleeves b20vtec builds (mxpx035)
 
i wasnt talking about your block specifically yours in fact your whp seems right<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mxpx035 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well i am pretty sure the cams are killing me and it is running really rich, it needs to be re-tuned really bad just through it on the dyno to see what it would do because i have a a good hook up. and i just switched the exhaust and lost 30 whp all the way across the board. i installed a 60mm rsr exmag because i couldn't stand the thermal, now it sounds awsome but need it tunned even more but i belive i will get about 15 to 20hp out of retuning it so it would put me back to 200 which is perfect for my daily driver.

Show me some dyno graphs with the list of mods, because it seems hard to get 240whp on gsr cams. because i want to install cams and pistons but don't want to sleeve my block
</TD></TR></TABLE>

I was talking about people with skunk 2 stage 3 and 2 only making a little more than you. but it could be the different dynos i dont know why i didnt think of that https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...s/emsmilep.gif

LShatchie 03-16-2006 02:25 PM

Re: post ur all-motor stock sleeves b20vtec builds (KINGSOL18)
 
I have a b20vtec setup in my hatch.

b20z block, completely stock
b16a head with ctr cams and gears set to 0,0
skunk2 IM
b16 throttle body
3" shortram intake
ebay header, stock cat, apexi n1 catback

basically stock b20zvtec with ctr cams and boltons, street tuned with uberdata

ran it recently at the track, 93 hatch + interior
bfg g-force t/a drag radials 205/50/15

best time ;
R/T : .192
60' : 2.086
330 : 5.666
1/8 : 8.605
mph: 84.23
1000: 11.103

1/4: 13.233
mph: 105.77

Overall I am satisfied with what I ran, for a pretty much stock b20vtec, but I really just want to get that 12 second timeslip. Does anyone think its possible with maybe a better 60 foot and trying a few other things? Another thing is this was done with a LS tranny. I know people always say to get gsr or b16 but doesnt the LS have the same 1,2,3 gears? What would be the best transmission for me to get? Thanks


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