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DC5KING 02-17-2012 11:00 PM

Top Reasons Why a Clutch Burns
 
Hey Guys

its no doubt my driving habits is just dumb :P

i have an DC5 S 2002

ONLY 26K MILES!!!!!! First Owner

All OEM

Just replaced my clutch due to Burning...
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What are the Top Reasons why a Clutch Burns...?

No Doubt I feel i am over Revving going up hill, and sometimes between Shifts...

i also have a feeling that my negligence to maintain my rides fluids might have added to the burning clutch perhaps...

i would love to hear every ones experiences regarding this manner...

No Doubt I need to Change my Driving Habits

EEEEEEK!!!!

thanks in advance :)

DC5KING 02-18-2012 12:05 AM

Re: Top Reasons Why a Clutch Burns
 
ahhh snap

i found one big i do that scorched my clutch

i downshift a TON!!!! :P

someone told me downshifting burns the clutch, i agree...

doood 02-18-2012 12:07 AM

Re: Top Reasons Why a Clutch Burns
 
- riding the clutch
- constant dumping of the clutch
- improper install
- not resurfacing flywheel when installing new clutch

the list goes on and on

DC5KING 02-18-2012 12:30 AM

Re: Top Reasons Why a Clutch Burns
 

Originally Posted by doood (Post 46883395)
- riding the clutch
- constant dumping of the clutch
- improper install
- not resurfacing flywheel when installing new clutch

the list goes on and on

i defo ride the clutch even going uphill, to me this is the most retarded thing i do

but i also downshift A LOT!!!!! hhaaha

i will still downshift, but no more stop and going uphill driving :P

fook Dodgers Stadium :P haha

and its all OEM for my example, and its no doubt my driving habits...

Type-Spaz 02-18-2012 05:42 AM

Re: Top Reasons Why a Clutch Burns
 
even simple things like when you sit at a red light or stop light.... holding the clutch in all the time

b_ron 02-18-2012 09:14 AM

Re: Top Reasons Why a Clutch Burns
 
how high do you rev to get going from start?
some people rev a little too high everytime, which adds up if you drive everyday like that

DC5KING 02-18-2012 10:38 AM

Re: Top Reasons Why a Clutch Burns
 

Originally Posted by Type-Spaz (Post 46883767)
even simple things like when you sit at a red light or stop light.... holding the clutch in all the time

i dont do this, man whoever does this, is weird, there is a foot rest for a reason :P

thanks spaz, i notice you drop knowledge all over here, you are a legit forumer :)

DC5KING 02-18-2012 10:45 AM

Re: Top Reasons Why a Clutch Burns
 

Originally Posted by b_ron (Post 46884473)
how high do you rev to get going from start?
some people rev a little too high everytime, which adds up if you drive everyday like that

if i am not launching, and i dont do it much

3K RPM, very normal

but i think i understand more now...

these are my reasons i know why i smoked out my clutch

1. SUPER OVER REVVING going Uphill (When i first smelled a burning clutch)

2. I downshift A LOT!!!! :P its so fun, seriously if you drive a DC5S, why not take it hard :P

3. If my clutch is HOT, i be still making it MOLTEN!!! :P

Obviously i love taking to redline, here and there...

but seriously

i downshift ALOT!!!

would this be the biggest killer for me?

but only time and first time i smelled my burning clutch was over revving going uphill

doood 02-18-2012 11:14 AM

Re: Top Reasons Why a Clutch Burns
 
sounds like you need to learn how to drive

Type-Spaz 02-18-2012 12:46 PM

Re: Top Reasons Why a Clutch Burns
 

Originally Posted by DC5KING (Post 46884858)
if i am not launching, and i dont do it much

3K RPM, very normal

but i think i understand more now...

these are my reasons i know why i smoked out my clutch

1. SUPER OVER REVVING going Uphill (When i first smelled a burning clutch)

2. I downshift A LOT!!!! :P its so fun, seriously if you drive a DC5S, why not take it hard :P

3. If my clutch is HOT, i be still making it MOLTEN!!! :P

Obviously i love taking to redline, here and there...

but seriously

i downshift ALOT!!!

would this be the biggest killer for me?

but only time and first time i smelled my burning clutch was over revving going uphill



I'm on my 4th engine.... 5th transmission in a K24 SUPERCHARGED DC5 yet I'm still on my first aftermarket clutch... I piss pound the shit out of this car, I downshift everywhere, I race on the track, (i know bad) and the streets, I love taking this car to it's fullest potential and then pushing it past and yet I am still on ONE clutch lol

You must just be to clutch happy... slip it to much instead of quick grabbing and etc. It's ok it's a learning experience and screw it as long as you're having fun that's what counts in my opinion.

94dbteg 02-18-2012 01:07 PM

Re: Top Reasons Why a Clutch Burns
 
i usually try to start of around 1200rpm when i first start off in first gear and if i down shift i rev match my gears to what ever it would be going into a lower gear. i find people have bad habits resting there foot on the clutch when there clutch should not be touched. when im driving normal in my 08 si i some times skip gears if im on a bit of a down grade to help from pushing clutch in and out so much. i never sit at the stop light in first with clutch in wears the throw out bearing faster. anyway i have 160,xxxkms on mine and sees 8k rpm 5 or 6 times a week and my clutch is just as if the car was new. thats my 2cents..

prelude_h22vtec 02-18-2012 02:12 PM

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To OP: Was this car your first with a manual transmission?
Learning to drive stick for the first time can take years off the life of the clutch.

94dbteg 02-18-2012 02:25 PM

Re: Top Reasons Why a Clutch Burns
 
well said sir. get yourself a beater for practice then buy something decent

ken9 02-18-2012 02:46 PM

Re: Top Reasons Why a Clutch Burns
 
Avoid traffic this can wear your clutch alots.. Gosh damn..

DC5KING 02-18-2012 10:11 PM

Re: Top Reasons Why a Clutch Burns
 

Originally Posted by Type-Spaz (Post 46885323)
I'm on my 4th engine.... 5th transmission in a K24 SUPERCHARGED DC5 yet I'm still on my first aftermarket clutch... I piss pound the shit out of this car, I downshift everywhere, I race on the track, (i know bad) and the streets, I love taking this car to it's fullest potential and then pushing it past and yet I am still on ONE clutch lol

You must just be to clutch happy... slip it to much instead of quick grabbing and etc. It's ok it's a learning experience and screw it as long as you're having fun that's what counts in my opinion.

okay i knew its not the down shifting then :P

its more of my Uphill driving habits...

i noticed my clutch started gong, when i started taking my car to Dodgers stadium...

my clutch was always fine before that...

what after market clutch do you have? and a matching flywheel or stock?

sounds fun, i love my DC5S, its freaking fun , fast, quick, handles easay , just like a honda always is :)

DC5KING 02-18-2012 10:13 PM

Re: Top Reasons Why a Clutch Burns
 

Originally Posted by ken9 (Post 46885766)
Avoid traffic this can wear your clutch alots.. Gosh damn..

i live in Los Angeles, maybe this is another reason why, :P

but its bad when i catch a MLB Dodgers game... stop and go uphill :P

DC5KING 02-18-2012 10:25 PM

Re: Top Reasons Why a Clutch Burns
 

Originally Posted by 94dbteg (Post 46885392)
i usually try to start of around 1200rpm when i first start off in first gear and if i down shift i rev match my gears to what ever it would be going into a lower gear. i find people have bad habits resting there foot on the clutch when there clutch should not be touched. when im driving normal in my 08 si i some times skip gears if im on a bit of a down grade to help from pushing clutch in and out so much. i never sit at the stop light in first with clutch in wears the throw out bearing faster. anyway i have 160,xxxkms on mine and sees 8k rpm 5 or 6 times a week and my clutch is just as if the car was new. thats my 2cents..

my daily driving habits its very normal...

and i dont rest my foot on the clutch, that is just donkey balls :P

part of the luxury of having a manual transmission is to idle at a stop...

but right now i think i know what really happened...

my clutch never started to burn until 3 years back, when i first smelled my clutch burn going to Dodgers stadium...

i am thinking it might not be my daily driving habits, but several repeating severe over heating/burning my clutch that probably gave my clutch away even more and more...

i gotta admit, my clutch feels really great, its seriously been years, sinces its been this great...extremely happy i replaced my clutch...

number one thing i know i must change is when going uphill in stop and go traffic, keep it a a low rev and dont ride the clutch...or just avoid it all together if possible :P

i am starting to doubt my downshifting is the biggest cause, its no doubt several serious incidents that exacerbate the clutch to being fully burnt out...

:)

DC5KING 02-18-2012 10:29 PM

Re: Top Reasons Why a Clutch Burns
 

Originally Posted by 94dbteg (Post 46885691)
well said sir. get yourself a beater for practice then buy something decent

i use to drive a 84 Toyota SR pickup...

haha its not the same,

when you own a DC5, you wanna drive it, not take it out for a picnic

but i do notice i drive both cars differently going uphill...

i am trying to break it down, every experience i had when i smelled my clutch burn, and the recurring theme was, it was always at Dodgers Stadium...and even when i dont drive my DC5, i can smell other cars clutches burning...

anyone wanna elaborate on this more? thanks :)

i am thinking about scooping up some new rims :)

DC5KING 02-18-2012 10:32 PM

Re: Top Reasons Why a Clutch Burns
 

Originally Posted by prelude_h22vtec (Post 46885636)
To OP: Was this car your first with a manual transmission?
Learning to drive stick for the first time can take years off the life of the clutch.


naw, its not rocket science, i just drive my car hard... great thing is ever since i replaced my clutch, my car feels brand new :)

i am very ecstatic :)

i have also taken my DC5 cross country, once... i am sure my clutch was running hot that journey too...

:(

SpeedwaySlick 02-19-2012 02:49 AM

Re: Top Reasons Why a Clutch Burns
 

Originally Posted by 94dbteg (Post 46885691)
well said sir. get yourself a beater for practice then buy something decent

+1. And also use that beater for driving to Dodger games, in traffic, uphill, instead of the DC5, you know. Basicly use that beater to practice driving a manual, instead of driving the DC5 (you know, the DC5 that you would normally use to drive to MLB Dodger games).

And once you learn how to drive, then get a good aftermarket clutch for your car. Was it a DC2 that you own, or was it a DC5? I can't remember. Anyway, then you can use it to drive to the Angels games. Or was it Dodgers games? I can't remember. Anyway, you get the picture.

94dbteg 02-19-2012 06:44 AM

Re: Top Reasons Why a Clutch Burns
 
yeah starting on the hills is hard on them especially if you have your friends in the car.

b_ron 02-19-2012 12:13 PM

Re: Top Reasons Why a Clutch Burns
 

Originally Posted by DC5KING (Post 46884858)
if i am not launching, and i dont do it much

3K RPM, very normal


Originally Posted by 94dbteg (Post 46885392)
i usually try to start of around 1200rpm when i first start off in first gear and if i down shift i rev match my gears to what ever it would be going into a lower gear.

starting with 3k is not very normal to me. a bit too much.
i try to start under 1500. unless uphill, then i'll probably be around 2k

94dbteg 02-19-2012 01:17 PM

Re: Top Reasons Why a Clutch Burns
 
agreed

DC5KING 02-19-2012 02:20 PM

Re: Top Reasons Why a Clutch Burns
 

Originally Posted by b_ron (Post 46889513)
starting with 3k is not very normal to me. a bit too much.
i try to start under 1500. unless uphill, then i'll probably be around 2k

i meant 3 K in between gears

off course of 1st gear its to a crawl...cmon give me a break here fellas, i know how to drive, but i dont think i know how to let up when my clutch is hot...

:P

hahah who the freak launches off at 3K? :P

i seriously burned my clutch going uphill

i can admit i was riding the clutch at above RPMs of 5K...this was the first time i smelled my clutch burn...

my clutch was fine after this...but then repeatedly i would go the stadium and do the stupid routine again...

its not my daily driving habits, its my uphill shenanigans are the main result ...

its no doubt i have severely burned my clutch over a repeating course over the past 3 years, since i started to take my car to the stadium...

prior to me driving to the stadium, i have never smelled my clutch burn...

seriously, a honda is the easiest type of car to drive...

i have driven many manual cars from

MR2, EG, EK, DC2, EF, CRX, tons of rides, but haha i never took them uphill in stop and go traffic...

you guys must have never been to Dodgers Stadium :P

DC5KING 02-19-2012 02:24 PM

Re: Top Reasons Why a Clutch Burns
 

Originally Posted by 94dbteg (Post 46888179)
yeah starting on the hills is hard on them especially if you have your friends in the car.

yeah, its a biznitch... especially when they are all above 200 pounds...

i just dint feel confident, so i revved a bit hard, and higher...

in hind sight, that is where i done fack up... :P

next time, never again, hahah...

DC5S i feel is not made to go uphill in stop and go with maximum load...

the first time i thrashed it , i knew it was due to riding the clutch and over revving...

i just wanted to here more opinions...

but no doubt, it was not caused by my daily driving, but a series of serious burning clutch situations...

my clutch is feel great now tho, its been about 3 years, that my car has felt this quick :)


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