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Old 05-12-2010, 11:51 AM
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as the title says, my car is throwing out P2647. is it my vtec solenoid causing this? & do i have to take it out and clean it?

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P2647 is a code for the VTEC oil pressure switch. This code is sometimes accompanied by an inability for the VTEC to physically engage, so the car won't rev above 3000 RPM or so.

Make sure that your oil level is full and that you are using either 5W-20 or 5W-30 oil - do not use a higher viscosity. You can try removing the VTEC spool valve and cleaning it out. You'll also want to remove the oil pressure switch itself from the VTEC valve and cleaning out the oil passages with some carb cleaner. Reset the computer. If it doesn't solve the problem, replace the pressure switch. They're somewhere around $60-65 IIRC. Do not over-torque it or it will break off.
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does having too much or too little oil throw out p2647 also?
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How much oil is in the engine?

From a maintenance standpoint, the worst thing you can possibly do to a K-series engine is run it low on oil for an extended period of time. You WILL sludge up the VTEC and VTC oil passages and the timing chain tensioner, and if the oil pressure drops low enough you can potentially stretch the chain and/or cause it to jump teeth on the camshaft sprockets and throw out the cam timing (or worse, bend valves).

If you know that your car burns oil, check it frequently. Make it a habit. Top it off as needed every time you fill up with fuel, or every 500 miles, or every 1000 miles, or however often is needed. Don't let it drop more than a half-quart low, which is about half the distance between the two dots on your dip stick.

Even if you don't know if your car burns oil or you don't think that it does, check it anyway. Some cars don't start burning off oil until 1000-2000 miles into the oil change interval.
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How much oil is in the engine?

From a maintenance standpoint, the worst thing you can possibly do to a K-series engine is run it low on oil for an extended period of time. You WILL sludge up the VTEC and VTC oil passages and the timing chain tensioner, and if the oil pressure drops low enough you can potentially stretch the chain and/or cause it to jump teeth on the camshaft sprockets and throw out the cam timing (or worse, bend valves).

If you know that your car burns oil, check it frequently. Make it a habit. Top it off as needed every time you fill up with fuel, or every 500 miles, or every 1000 miles, or however often is needed. Don't let it drop more than a half-quart low, which is about half the distance between the two dots on your dip stick.

Even if you don't know if your car burns oil or you don't think that it does, check it anyway. Some cars don't start burning off oil until 1000-2000 miles into the oil change interval.
i actually have too much oil right now. i checked my oil on my driveway, which is slanted and it showed it was below the dots, so i added some more. then i checked it on a flat level and now i'm a little over the top dot. i'm gna drain some of it tomorrow. could this be the cause of my CEL?
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No. A little over full won't hurt it. If it's a half quart or more over then you should drain some out, but just a small amount like 1/8 or even 1/4 quart won't really hurt it.

The CEL is most likely unrelated. Check the pressure switch.
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No. A little over full won't hurt it. If it's a half quart or more over then you should drain some out, but just a small amount like 1/8 or even 1/4 quart won't really hurt it.

The CEL is most likely unrelated. Check the pressure switch.
alright. it's pretty hard to find things behind the motor. -__- so little space. but tomorrow i'll look for a diagram or helm's manual to refer to. thanks for all the help!
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if i take off the vtec solenoid, will the oil in the head drain out all over my block and tranny?
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I just had this problem. Thanks to this forum for the great information it provided me in solving the problem. I was chasing this "limp" issue for some time. I changed the oil pressure switch and checked the old one when I took it out. It tested out ok for continuity, did an ohms check, was about 1.3ohm. I was worried I didn't find the problem. Well I installed the new pressure switch and noticed the connector was very corroded. Ah... that's the problem! So I scrapped it with a wire brush and applied some electrode grease to the connector. Now she's running great.

I just wanted to include checking the connector for corrosion to this thread.

Thanks for all the helpful information!
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do you know exactly where the vtec oil pressure switch is located on a 05 accord 2.4??
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Originally Posted by David Zychek View Post
I just had this problem. Thanks to this forum for the great information it provided me in solving the problem. I was chasing this "limp" issue for some time. I changed the oil pressure switch and checked the old one when I took it out. It tested out ok for continuity, did an ohms check, was about 1.3ohm. I was worried I didn't find the problem. Well I installed the new pressure switch and noticed the connector was very corroded. Ah... that's the problem! So I scrapped it with a wire brush and applied some electrode grease to the connector. Now she's running great.

I just wanted to include checking the connector for corrosion to this thread.

Thanks for all the helpful information!
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Did you change both switches? Or just the rear one? My van gave the same code but I'm not sure if it's specific to the front or rear switch.
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I just had this problem. Thanks to this forum for the great information it provided me in solving the problem. I was chasing this "limp" issue for some time. I changed the oil pressure switch and checked the old one when I took it out. It tested out ok for continuity, did an ohms check, was about 1.3ohm. I was worried I didn't find the problem. Well I installed the new pressure switch and noticed the connector was very corroded. Ah... that's the problem! So I scrapped it with a wire brush and applied some electrode grease to the connector. Now she's running great.

I just wanted to include checking the connector for corrosion to this thread.

Thanks for all the helpful information!
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Old 10-23-2016, 04:37 PM
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Where is the oil pressure switch on a 3.5i 2007 Honda Pilot on the engine?
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Thank you for all the online help with fixing the P2647 issue on our 2004 Accord LX. The check engine light came on and would not rev past 2,500 rpm. It would jerk violently back and forth if I tried to kept accelerating. This is a 2.4L, inline 4 cyl, with auto trans with about 150k miles on it. I followed the videos below to remove and install a new VVT (VTEC) oil pressure switch I bought from my local auto parts store ($70). Make sure it is the Variable Valve Timing oil pressure switch and not the regular oil pressure sensor you are replacing. I used a 22mm deep socket for the install. The engine can now rev freely and "kick into VTEC" and there are no more engine lights on.


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P2647 code " Rocker Arm Actuator Control System Stuck On (Bank 1)" for my 2008 Pilot
My biggest challenge was finding the VTEC Spool Assembly; FWD vs 4WD
08 Pilot FWD symptoms: P2647 code with the VSA light and the /!\ light
Only happened after the engine got to running temp AND I came to a stop with rpms dropping below 1000
Pilot was fine when engine was cold or if at running temp and rpms above 1000

Tried the following:
1) Oil level or quality issue: Oil was only ~1000 miles old fairly clean and practically full, added 1/4 qt - no improvement
2) replaced VTEC spool assembly oil sender ($172 for part) no improvement
3) took off VTEC spool assembly, cleaned spool assembly and replace the gasket (see pictures below) - same day and no more issues

Hardest part was finding the VTEC spool assembly on my 08 pilot, FWD vs 4WD


FWD Pilot has the VTEC Spool Assembly on top of the engine, oh.





Next; close up of circled area



Pulled the VTEC (someone called it the VVT) spool assembly off, cleaned it and changed the gasket (has a screen)



Symptoms gone, Honda Part # 15826-RDV-J01

FYI - (San Diego area) mechanic wanted $1000 to replace the VTEC spool assembly, $700 for the part and $300 to remove 2 bolts, 2 connectors, spray some cleaner and replace the $18 gasket.

Hope this saves someone time.
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