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Old 05-27-2002, 07:27 AM
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Hey everybody,

I did a search on past and presant VTEC engagement points but didn't find anything that sais weather or not different cars have different points????
My buddy has a 2001 and is saying his VTEC kicks in around 6100 RPM, can this be true? I have a 99 that is at 5700 and he is worried something might be wrong with his ECU. Can anyone help me with this?

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i have a 01 ITR and my vtec crossover is at 5600 rpm
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Your friend forgot that the tach is off.
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VTEC engage a little bit before 6K rpm on mine !

Why do you say the tach is off ?
Does Honda put a non efficient tach on its sports car ?
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yes the tach is off. I believe it is not by much. Mine is 200rpm off. I heard that not just Integra models are off but a few other honda models as well. Can anyone confirm this?
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My VTEC engages at 6000 rpm on the tach but in real it's 5700 rpm....
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Mine varies between 5,600 and about 5,900. Depends on what your doing.
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yes the tach is off. I believe it is not by much. Mine is 200rpm off. I heard that not just Integra models are off but a few other honda models as well. Can anyone confirm this?
Yes. It is off by about 200 rpm's give or take. My friend has a 00 Type R with the VAFC setup. We set the VAFC to show the maximum rpm achieved. He took it up to around 8,800 indicated on the tach and the VAFC showed a max rpm of 8,500 something.
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So what you guys are saying is that each car "shows" a different engagement point, but in reality they are all at 5700 RPM? Or is it that some of the cars have tacs that are not correctly callibrated and need to be?
If this is the case, can the dealership fix this so that the tach shows 5700????
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Default Re: VTEC engagement point??? (vadeR)

5700rpms is when the factory ECU engages VTEC. If you have an intake (or maybe stock, i dont know), you don't hear the VTEC until ~6000rpms, hence the discrepency.
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Default Re: VTEC engagement point??? (Ryuji)

Why do you say the tach is off ?
Does Honda put a non efficient tach on its sports car ?

Watch the road, not the tach.
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Watch the road, not the tach.
yeah.. [sarcasm]**** looking at the tach and speedometer.. just drive [/sarcasm]
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speedo, what speedo?....what the heck is that?
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that thing on the cluster.. the goal is to make it turn all the way around as many times as possible
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Default Re: VTEC engagement point??? (jonas)

Can you guys please just answer my question without all the jargon...

So what you guys are saying is that each car "shows" a different engagement point, but in reality they are all at 5700 RPM? Or is it that some of the cars have tacs that are not correctly callibrated and need to be?
If this is the case, can the dealership fix this so that the tach shows 5700????
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they did answer the ?

The tach is off, it's not something they did on purpose, nor can they fix. You will see other devices, such as a VAFC or Fields VTEC controller, that accurately show the RPM b/c they tap into the ECU directly.
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Then thank you for all your help.

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What they did do on purpose is making the error in the upper range rather than lower range. So, the fact that it's off is due to the manufacturing error but they made it so that it is always indicating more than real and never indicating less than real. Just like the speedo!!!!
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Default Re: VTEC engagement point??? (Jason)

some oem clusters are off . like they said VAFC or Fields Vtec controller to see accuracy
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yes, thats factory settings, while people say should only be off maybe 200? hell my tach says im shifting at 9k and cut off is at 9100, i know its wrong, but it still looks funny when someone watches me shift at "redline"

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dang, you guys have the ***** to stare at your tachs while going into vtec?? haha, when i'm about to hit vtec, my eyes are stuck to the road.

me in vtec
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VAFC said it all...

when i still had my car,

it indicated
lo-->hi = 5900 rpm
hi-->lo = 5600 rpm.

HTH
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