itr1244

http://www.d-series.org/forums/engin...io-canada.html

if you have swapped your original ecu (obd2) to chipped obd1 will fail the test because it cannot communicate with the reader.

sounds like i'm screwed.

anybody in ontario have e test done in 2013 ??
need some input..

mozzandherb

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Ive heard of people getting around it somehow

itr#1334

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Use an obdII to pass then swap them. That's what I had to do.

itr1244

good thing I didn't end up selling my oem ecu.
so it sounds like I don't need a cat to pass this test?

BLacK FirE

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If it's anything like the tests in NY as long as you have an OBD2 computer in and are not throwing check engine lights, you'll be fine.

e.lo_

if it's anything like aircare in BC, you can get away with passing without a cat.
I don't have a cat and have an OBDI ecu with hondata.

What I did to pass is, put a cat heat shield over my testpipe to mimic a cat. (they look under with a mirror)
plug back my stock ecu and drive around a bit to fulfill the parameters. No engine light on. and pass!

Quick99Si

A lot of states have that exact test. You'll need an OBD2 ECU and make sure that all your readiness monitors are set + no emissions related codes are being thrown.

Illinois has ways to get around this even if you have an OBD1 ECU, are throwing codes, engine inoperable, etc..

itr#1334

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My county requires a cat. All they do though is use a mirror to look for a cat. Just use a test pipe and put the oem cat's heat shield on it. You should pass as long as you don't have a CEL

itr1244

wouldn't not having a cat throw a code? I forgot if I still have 2ndary o2 sensor. I'm just paranoid. since I never had this kind of test done before. I thought having a hollowed out cat threw a code I might have taken the 2nd o2 out when I converted to obd1. damn.

itr#1334

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Yeah it would throw a code. Unless you do the 02 trick. Idk how it is there but here it's no big deal to fail. They give you 30 days to correct whatever failed.

itr1244

not a big deal to fail but you do need to pass to drive it ? lol
i mihgt have to go with unconditional pass. have to pay 450 on repair they will let you off that way. sounds like i need a cat and ecu swap.. more work than before. i had to switch to oem header and cat. and car would pass the etest with obd1 ecu.. now i need cat and ecu.. and 2nd o2.. fuuuuuuuuuuuuuug

1998GsRIntegra

Same test they've been doing in MD for quite a while now. Just pop your stock ecu in, do the o2 sensor trick and it'll pass. Mine is low enough that their little mirror can't even see under the car to check for a cat so I don't bother with trying to make the test pipe look like a cat.

itr1244

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/1x-O2-Oxygen-...d78285&vxp=mtr

do you think this will do the job?
i dont think i have too much clearance in o2 area..

1998GsRIntegra

Just put two spark plug non-foulers together. A lot cheaper and you can get them at autozone.

rsangha13

What is the O2 trick?

itr1244

i'm scared to hurt myself drilling the non fouler..haha i dont have right tool plus i won't have enough clearance to extend it straight.

O2 trick for obd2..
when using high flow cat or no cat. you will have cel code because the reading between the 2 o2 sensor is about the same. 2nd o2 is supposed to read lower # because the cat is supposed to do the job. so by doing the trick. the 2nd o2 will read lower number tricking the ecu that there is a cat.

with obd1 u dont need the 2nd o2 so i got rid of the 2nd o2 sensor.. but now because of the e test rule changed i need the original ecu which is obd2.. that needs 2nd o2.. that' why i need to do the o2 trick

BLacK FirE

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Club RSX makes one of those and I bought it too. Unfortunately, test pipes put the o2 bung on the wrong end so it makes clearance extremely tight. You'll have to cut off some of the threads to get it to fit.

fpvteg0681

I am in Ontario too and I have similar concerns, however where you have an improper ECU, my Type-R has a completely different motor lol (k20a2). Lucky for me kpro can do the trick.

Just borrow an ECU if possible from somebody, drive it around as mentioned in this thread to build a history, then take the test assuming no CEL's. There are also etest testers that many shops have where they plug it in and tell you if you'll pass before you actually run it. Best of luck dude!

DVDr

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This test is not hard to pass at all.

its broken down this way

1995 and older get tail pipe test

1996 to 1997 ( obd2a ) gets plugged in to obd2 port for rpm and tail pipe test

1998-2000/2001 pure obd2 port . As the system was in its primitive days. you get 2 not ready parameters and still pass.

( and of course 2001 and up pure obd2 port and stricter )

so basically plug in a stock ecu, drive around and pass.

_Jack_Bauer_

Correction^^.

1997 and older Gas get TSI [sniffer + RPM via inductive pickup or OBD if supported]
1997 and older diesel get visual smoke test
1998+ diesel get either OBD or visual, depending on GVWR.
1998+ Gas get OBD test. **1998-2000 are allowed 2 "not ready" monitors, 2001+ only allowed 1 not ready monitor**

Conditional Passes for 98+ may be granted for sticker renewal only. You Fail the first test. Wait at least 24 hours and have drove at least 30kms since the last test and be retested at the same facility that failed you. If you fail again, a retest again immediately after will grant you a TSI. No CELs may be present to be granted this conditional.

There are also conditional passes provided you have spent the "repair cost limit" in attempt to fix emissions related issues. $450 is the limit. Say you pay $100 for the emmisions diagnostic, and you get a quote of $500 for the repairs nessasary to pass. You do not have to spend the $500 for a conditional as it would exceed the repair cost limit of $450. If the repairs quoted were only $200, you would have to preform the repairs and attempt a normal test again as it would not exceed the repair cost limit.



There is still hot rod status, if you qualify. You will then receive a 2 speed idle with super low standards [1980 standards]

To qualify for hot rod status, the engine must be a higher displacement than factory option, and said vehicle must be model year 1999 or older. Their is a special form that must me completed with photos. This form is available if you contact Parsons directly. 99% of Drive Clean facilities are unaware of this. I still have to get this done for my 93 Civic when I finish the engine rebuild.

I am an Inspector in Ontario, had a 1hr+ long phone call with Parsons to obtain the correct information. Got transferred to a number of reps because none of them had an answer. Finally I got a supervisor and he e-mailed the forms to my work. Their is a similar form for grey market vehicles. [Had a 1993 180SX, right hand drive off the boat from Japan. Guy went though hell for nearly a month to get to paper work completed to get an e-test.]

I absolutely hate the new OBD testing. I want the old ASM testing back. Or better yet, abolish the program all together. Of course that wont happen though. Too much of a cash cow for the gov.

itr1244

i used o2 spacer ( same idea as spark plug fouler) and swapped ecu back to original obd2.. car ran like poop.. it shaked and wanted to shut off.. after about a minute .. cel came on.
car has been tuned on obd1 + chipped.. has bigger injectors and so on..
so i think only choice i have left is conditional pass..
would i be able to "conditional pass" with obd1 ecu?? car won't even run. and i dont want to risk it to damage my engine..
do i actually have to spend 450 to quailfy for that? i dont even know what parts to spend money on...at this point..
a new cat? get them to try to get oem ecu from dealer? that might be over 450 but i dont wanna spend that money on stupid stuff ..
any help would be appricated.

anyone want to buy a itr?

itr1244

http://www.scrapdriveclean.ca/ontari...-presentation/
check it out

itr1244

seems like there are too many problems with new etest method.
they're trying to phase it out.. please help.

http://www.scrapdriveclean.ca/take-action/

itr1244

to quailfy for hotrod. you need different engine.. so for itr.. it can't have b series block.
it needs to be k or j
engine's displacement has to be bigger and can't be offered in same model of the car..
i dont think i can do it by boring out 81 to 81.25..

itr1244

man.. am i the only one with this problem??