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Old 07-19-2008, 02:13 PM
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So after wanting these things since I was told PIC was gonna release them, Elaum(the guy who one them at expo) finally broke down and sold them to me. Looking forward to getting these things installed.



Along with PIC's stuff, I will also be doing the following:
Front lower ball joints
Wheel bearings all around
Possibly new studs and maybe some nutz-n-bolts

While I was out and about today, I snapped a few pics...










This is all I can do playing around...



Elaum, thanks again for hooking me up with these pieces! I look forward to getting out on track with this stuff!




On top of all new control arms and bushings, these are the "extra" parts I got aswell. Obviously the nuts and bolts are not mandatory but apparently I'm OCD.

INTEGRA » 1998 » 3DR TYPE-R » KA5MT » REAR LOWER ARM
90173-SR3-003 BOLT, ARM TORQUE (LOWER) (10X80) $6.25 $12.50 90173-ST7-Z01 BOLT, ARM (LOWER) (10X89) $5.01 $10.02
90174-SJ4-003 BOLT, TRAILING ARM BUSH (12X60) $6.87 $27.48
94050-08080 BAG 0F 10X NUT, FLANGE (8MM) $1.40 $2.80
90172-S04-003 BOLT, FLANGE (10X68) $0.89 $3.56
90117-SH3-004 BOLT, ARM (UPPER) (10X30) $3.02 $12.08
93412-06012-08 BOLT-WASHER (6X12) $0.56 $8.96
90171-SR3-003 BOLT, TORQUE COMPENSATOR (10X59) $4.37 $17.48 90551-SH3-000 WASHER (24X10X2.3) $1.83 $3.66
95701-08016-08 BAG OF 10 BOLT, FLANGE (8X16) $6.40 $25.60
REAR BRAKE (DISK) (2)
42200-S03-C51 BEARING ASSY., RR. HUB UNIT $146.51 $293.02
42326-ST7-Z00 CAP, HUB UNIT $3.72 $7.44
90305-692-010 NUT, SPINDLE (22MM) $1.19 $2.38
93600-06014-0H BAG OF 10SCREW, FLAT (6X14) $3.90 $15.60
42324-SB2-020 WASHER, HUB UNIT $7.78 $15.56
KNUCKLE
51220-S04-003 JOINT, BALL (LOWER) $39.21 $78.42
90363-SF1-000 NUT, CASTLE (12MM) $3.97 $7.94
90321-SE0-000 NUT, BALL PIN (UPPER) (10MM) $2.91 $5.82
93402-06012-08 BOLT-WASHER (6X12) $0.56 $4.48
93402-06010-07 BOLT-WASHER (6X10) $0.56 $2.24
FRONT LOWER ARM
90164-SR3-013 BOLT, SELF-LOCK (14X34) $6.39 $12.78
90168-SR3-000 BOLT, FLANGE (14X35) $1.98 $3.96
90162-SR3-000 BOLT, FLANGE (14X60) $1.46 $2.92
90118-SR3-003 BOLT, SELF-LOCK (12X76) $6.39 $12.78
90175-SH3-005 BOLT, DAMPER FORK $7.07 $14.14
90215-SB0-003 NUT, SELF-LOCK (12MM) (SATO RASHI) $0.71 $1.42
90120-SB0-003 BOLT, RR. SHOCK ABSORBER LOCK (10X42) $0.77 $1.54 FRONT BRAKE
44300-S5A-008 BEARING ASSY., FR. HUB (NTN CORP.) $54.46 $108.92


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Old 07-19-2008, 02:31 PM
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Are all the pieces CW? With everything installed, ride should be tighter
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I'm awaiting PICs release of these as well. Such a sweet setup.
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Kinda sucks that he sold the 2nd best Expo prize IMO but that's a great pickup on your part.

ps, your picture borders are kinda cute.
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Jim, you suck ... I wanted those so bad!!!

Congrats and please give a report on them ... Al and Jim will be at WE-Todd and will love the fact that you have these on the car. I am sure they will want the feed back too.

Hope Al chimes in and talks about when we might see these items on the market!
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wheres the dirt drifting pics??
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Noice photoshoot mang I like the setting 107 is lookin real goot
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RTW DC2R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wheres the dirt drifting pics?? </TD></TR></TABLE>

x2, hardparker.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hooch’n &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Jim, you suck ... I wanted those so bad!!!

Congrats and please give a report on them ... Al and Jim will be at WE-Todd and will love the fact that you have these on the car. I am sure they will want the feed back too.

Hope Al chimes in and talks about when we might see these items on the market! </TD></TR></TABLE>

Those guys are awesome. I'm really looking forward to another Suspension class.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RTW DC2R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wheres the dirt drifting pics?? </TD></TR></TABLE>

I wanna know too but those are pretty awesome pics
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I actually jipped him the compensator arms. I had them under some sheets and forgot all about them.

I didn't want to sell them, as I really wanted to put them on my car, but with getting into an accident, I finally decided its time to get my car fixed. I knew Jim would give them a good home. Its a win-win situation.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by walker111 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Along with PIC's stuff, I will also be doing the following:
Front lower ball joints</TD></TR></TABLE>
Are you trying to alter the roll centre, or just replacing OEM stuff that's worn?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by George Knighton &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Are you trying to alter the roll centre, or just replacing OEM stuff that's worn?</TD></TR></TABLE>

George, can you enlighten me(us) on roll center adjusters. I'v never heard an explaination/review from a non-bias source.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by coolhandluke &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

George, can you enlighten me(us) on roll center adjusters. I'v never heard an explaination/review from a non-bias source.</TD></TR></TABLE>

It's just a way to compensate the way the car's feel in a corner can sometimes be adversely affected by lowering the car.

If you're in the situation that I am in, you might eventually think about it. My car's about 220 Dynojet HP, no power steering, competition tyres, and N1 suspension. For an old man like me, the car's a bit of a beast and on a ripped up course like the way Summit Point Main Track is now, it can be tiring.

In theory, roll centre adjusting balljoints will compensate for the car's tendency to adopt an unusual lean in corners and help thereby with a more comfortable, flatter cornering attitude, especially if you're also trying to handle other issues at the same time, like a bumpy course or a distracting thing like passing a fast car in a corner.

Roll centre adjusting balljoints can be as cheap as $150 and all the way up to around $300.

I wouldn't recommend considering it for most drivers. But it's something to think about after you've made a number of other modifications and you're searching for a way to control the beast you have created.

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Thank you, thats a good description and answers my question.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by neo_ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

x2, hardparker. </TD></TR></TABLE> wow, thats like calling the jim 4foot tall. both of Jims itr's have been on track ... i don't believe yours has.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hooch’n &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> wow, thats like calling the jim 4foot tall. both of Jims itr's have been on track ... i don't believe yours has.</TD></TR></TABLE>

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who cares if its tracked or not.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdmeg6b18b &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">who cares if its tracked or not.</TD></TR></TABLE>

You defintly just opened up a can of worms, the army should be arriving soon to put in their $0.02...
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdmeg6b18b &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">who cares if its tracked or not.</TD></TR></TABLE>

When someone says "hardparker" that means they just show their ride and don't drive it....Jim (walker) comes to Expo/We-Todd events and tracks his ride with Mugen parts and all.

So when someone that doesn't track their car and only posts hardparking pics calls someone out .. i have to call it.

I don't care if you don't track your car, just don't call people out when you don't track your R and call them hardparkers.. FYI R stands for RACE (not show or rice)
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You defintly just opened up a can of worms, the army should be arriving soon to put in their $0.02...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yep, I was right.


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hooch’n &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


So when someone that doesn't track their car and only posts hardparking pics calls someone out .. i have to call it.

I don't care if you don't track your car, just don't call people out when you don't track your R and call them hardparkers.. FYI R stands for RACE (not show or rice)</TD></TR></TABLE>

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love the car man looks like u were havin some fun with it
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Yep, I was right.


]</TD></TR></TABLE> go kiss Len or something
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BlueIntegraBoy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Are all the pieces CW? With everything installed, ride should be tighter </TD></TR></TABLE>

Pieces are white, not sure if they have CW powder coat...

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by coolhandluke &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm awaiting PICs release of these as well. Such a sweet setup.</TD></TR></TABLE>

&lt;stoked he doesnt have to wait any longer

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by get RIGHT &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Kinda sucks that he sold the 2nd best Expo prize IMO but that's a great pickup on your part.

ps, your picture borders are kinda cute. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I think Chris had some "needs" to take car of...

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hooch’n &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Jim, you suck ... I wanted those so bad!!!

Congrats and please give a report on them ... Al and Jim will be at WE-Todd and will love the fact that you have these on the car. I am sure they will want the feed back too.

Hope Al chimes in and talks about when we might see these items on the market! </TD></TR></TABLE>

I cant wait to get these on track! Should feel awesome!

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RTW DC2R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wheres the dirt drifting pics?? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Honestly, if i was in the black car I'd of been all over it! I punked out in the white one though

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I was def happy about how the pics turned out.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by neo_ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

x2, hardparker. </TD></TR></TABLE>

lol

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chris93Si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I wanna know too but those are pretty awesome pics </TD></TR></TABLE>

I'll have to borrow the black car and go back out there.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by eluam &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I actually jipped him the compensator arms. I had them under some sheets and forgot all about them.

I didn't want to sell them, as I really wanted to put them on my car, but with getting into an accident, I finally decided its time to get my car fixed. I knew Jim would give them a good home. Its a win-win situation.</TD></TR></TABLE>

lol, I got home and was wondering bout them..Thanks again for selling to me! GL gettin your car back together! If ya need any help....let me know

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so the Pic kit includes all new control arms and everything, not just the bushings?


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