Mugen vs. ATS LSD
 

I heard a lot of good things about both LSD, but which one ist the better choice for a track-teg (roadracing)?

I only know the mugen LSD, and it's realy nice, daily and on track. Anyone compared these two products and got experience with both of them? what would you guys recommend?

Re: Mugen vs. ATS LSD (orca)
 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by orca &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I heard a lot of good things about both LSD, but which one ist the better choice for a track-teg (roadracing)?

I only know the mugen LSD, and it's realy nice, daily and on track. Anyone compared these two products and got experience with both of them? what would you guys recommend?</TD></TR></TABLE>


I have only tried ATS LSD and stock itr lsd. I love the ATS LSD. Period. I will have no reason to switch... ever.

Re: Mugen vs. ATS LSD (orca)
 

the latest lsd from ATS is the D20, which totally annilates the m00gen diff. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...es/emsmile.gif

Re: Mugen vs. ATS LSD (Rodney)
 

Is the ATS a clutch style or gear ?

Re: Mugen vs. ATS LSD (AssPenny)
 

ATS uses clutch plate

Re: Mugen vs. ATS LSD (AssPenny)
 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AssPenny &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Is the ATS a clutch style or gear ?</TD></TR></TABLE>

clutch type diff

Re: Mugen vs. ATS LSD (BlueR)
 

their new D20 LSD, uses the most plates out of any after market LSD

http://www.a-t-s-usa.com/images/phot...SD-typeD20.jpg

what about cusco's lsd. do they make one for the ITR

Re: (circa86)
 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by circa86 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what about cusco's lsd.</TD></TR></TABLE>


what you must remember when buying a clutch type diff is ease of rebuilding. can you get the parts easy? that should of major concern when buying an aftermarket lsd. ATS is here in the states and rebuild parts are very easy to come by. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...es/emsmile.gif https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif

Re: Mugen vs. ATS LSD (BlueR)
 

Does ATS have a warranty similar to Quafie, or any warranty at all?

Re: Mugen vs. ATS LSD (Jon V)
 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jon V &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Does ATS have a warranty similar to Quafie, or any warranty at all?</TD></TR></TABLE>

no warranty

Re: Mugen vs. ATS LSD (Rodney)
 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rodney &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">no warranty</TD></TR></TABLE>

So what is the benifit over Quafie?

different type of diff?

Re: Mugen vs. ATS LSD (Jon V)
 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jon V &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So what is the benifit over Quafie?

different type of diff?</TD></TR></TABLE>

it's faster..... one of the benefits of a clutch type lsd is when you lift a wheel (rumble strips etc) with a oem or quaife lsd, the diff will freewheel, essentially stopping power transfer, and when it comes down, it can sometimes shatter the diff. clutch type transmits power to wheels all the time. also, you can dial in how much lockup you want, so it is adjustable. with a gear type diff (oem, quaife) you are stuck with whatever the manufacturer dictated in their design.

if quiafe gave me a paid sponsorship, i would still rather run the ATS, as i feel it is a superior lsd, and i need all the help i can get.....

Re: Mugen vs. ATS LSD (Rodney)
 

Looks like Quafie is off teh list for the K... https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...s/emsmilep.gif

You gotta love that lifetime warranty though

Re: Mugen vs. ATS LSD (Jon V)
 

no luv for the spoon ones https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emsad.gif

um, has anyone EVER heard of a quaife breaking? i do believe that the thought of a gear type ABD Quaife LSD breaking is sheer myth. it is my understanding that of the many THOUSANDS of quaife ABS sold over the years (most for racing) Not ONE has EVER broken. ever! so that is not a good reason. AND, they are used by a LOT of race cars. the smooth delivery of traction and lifetime warranty, lack of rebuillding requirements and no break in make a quaife a no brainer in my book!!

Re: (vactor)
 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vactor &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">um, has anyone EVER heard of a quaife breaking? i do believe that the thought of a gear type ABD Quaife LSD breaking is sheer myth. it is my understanding that of the many THOUSANDS of quaife ABS sold over the years (most for racing) Not ONE has EVER broken. ever! so that is not a good reason. AND, they are used by a LOT of race cars. the smooth delivery of traction and lifetime warranty, lack of rebuillding requirements and no break in make a quaife a no brainer in my book!!</TD></TR></TABLE>

mine broke but its ok... https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif cant beat that warranty Quaife has https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emwink.gif

Re: (TURBO4drTypeR)
 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TURBO4drTypeR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

mine broke but its ok... https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif cant beat that warranty Quaife has https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emwink.gif </TD></TR></TABLE>

owned https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...s/emsmilep.gif

On average, how often is a rebuld neccessary on a clutch-type LSD?

Re: (lax1185)
 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vactor &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the smooth delivery of traction and lifetime warranty, lack of rebuillding requirements and no break in make a quaife a no brainer in my book!!</TD></TR></TABLE>

yes, for the average user, a quaife is good, but for outright traction, a clutch type is faster. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...es/emsmile.gif

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lax1185 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">On average, how often is a rebuld neccessary on a clutch-type LSD?</TD></TR></TABLE>

all depends on use. some people can go 3 years ( or more) without a rebuild, others rebuild after a few races. i am on that extreme, as i check my diff frequently. if it drops below a certain initial torque, i rebuild it it keep it's "edge". but this is for a nationally competitive car, not your average street car. before my car went "race" only, i drove on mine daily for about 2 years.

Re: (Rodney)
 

i found a pic where the ATS excels vs a quaife.....

http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/we...MXk1NDE%3D.jpg

as you can, my inside wheel is on the verge or separation with the pavement.

Re: Mugen vs. ATS LSD (Jon V)
 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jon V &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Looks like Quafie is off teh list for the K... https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...s/emsmilep.gif

You gotta love that lifetime warranty though</TD></TR></TABLE>

No lifetime warranty if you race.

Re: (lax1185)
 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lax1185 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

owned https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...s/emsmilep.gif

On average, how often is a rebuld neccessary on a clutch-type LSD?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I've got over 70,000 miles on my Mugen LSD. I'll be rebuilding it sometime this year, YMMV.

Why does the Mugen LSD a 2-way setup? Seems like understeer world to me :/

The ATS is 1.5 way, which is better for our cars.

Re: (Rodney)
 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rodney &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> i found a pic where the ATS excels vs a quaife.....</TD></TR></TABLE>are you off of the throttle in that picture? https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...s/emsmilep.gif

Re: (RisforTypeR)
 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RisforTypeR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Why does the Mugen LSD a 2-way setup? Seems like understeer world to me :/

The ATS is 1.5 way, which is better for our cars.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Mugen offers 2 different 1.5 way pressure ring sets. Why do you say the 1.5 way is better for our cars?