B serious

iTrader: (1)

He's building a street car that he can track. He implies it needs to be TÜV legal.

Your advice is bad. Starting with Koni Race and ending (hopefully) with 15x8 +35's that magically fit under stock fenders and will pass TÜV inspection.

testify

Koni Yellow doesnt work with spring rates over 500#. And they work poorly with anything between 400# and 500#.

He'd be wise to start with the RACE shocks right from the get go. They'll work well with the spring rates he'll want to run, and they have shortened shafts and bodies to work perfect with the lower ride height.

There's a lot more to this car setup stuff than you realize.

This is my last response to you, stop trashing this guy's thread.

B serious

iTrader: (1)

I 100% agree that yellows are no good over about 300LB rear and 400ish LB front on anything except very smooth race tracks.

But...again...you haven't referenced his question about TÜV compliance. My objection to your recommendations is that you're ignoring his posts and giving him shitty advice.

Why would my knowledge of car set up come up? Chances are I know more than you do.

testify

He isn't even running an airbag, compliance doesnt sound like an issue.

Now dude, seriously, enough is enough.

B serious

iTrader: (1)

I answered "I don't believe so...for these reasons...."

You responded "bro ZERO PROBLEMS KONI RACE 15x8 +35"

Marlin85

I will never try to fit 8" wide wheels white ET35. I think that will be a problem at Nürburgring.

I looking at 7x16 wheels white 205/45-16 tires. I`m not sure about det ET. 45 or 40 (?)

Have ordered Wilwood DHPA Calipers.

B serious

iTrader: (1)

215/45/16 is a stock size for this chassis.

Marlin85

Ok. Do you know the rim size?

havok907CRX

The 98 spec JDM ITR had 16x7 +50 with a 215/45/16. Plenty of people run 15x8 +35 with a 225/45/15 with nothing more than a fender roll.

B serious

iTrader: (1)

Ill take your word that 15x8 +35 amd 225 will fit with just a fender roll. But thats either at stock height...or lowered and natural camber.

I have not run agressive wheels with natural camber. I've only run them with additional negative camber for track use. So...again, I'll take your word for your fitment.

BUT...if you lowered the car and then corrected the camber back to stock angles to fall into TÜV spec, you'd have the issue of hitting the fender for sure 100%.

Its not a simple fitment. Especially if TÜV is involved.

testify

Why would you want to run zero negative static camber on a racecar?

B serious

iTrader: (1)

??? Who is building a racecar???

testify

Marlin85 is.

B serious

iTrader: (1)

Lol. I admire your trolling prowess

testify

Just trying to make sure he doesn't get lead down the wrong path.

It gets expensive when you end up having to build the car twice.

Marlin85

I`m not building a racingcar, but a trackday car.

Can I fit 7x16 ET40, 205/45-16? or will it be bether if I fit ET45? Or will I need to roll the fender?

I will buy a coilover kit and lower the car, will not ride on normal high.

testify

I understand you will not be door to door racing your car, but you will be speeding around racetracks and the Nurburgring, correct?

That tire size is smaller than what the car came with from the factory. Thats a step in the wrong direction.

And if you choose too mild of a 'coilover' setup, the car will be undersprung. When you add grip, it's crucial to add spring rate.

B serious

iTrader: (1)

This thread is so awful lol.

OP...does your car's suspension need to be TÜV legal or not? Are you looking specifically for TÜV legal coilovers?

What are the TUV alignment laws that you're restricted by? Does the car's alignment need to fall into the stock parameters?

Does it need to be TÜV legal at all times? Do they do spot checks on the road? Or can you just revert back to stock for inspection?

215/45/16 on 16x7 +45 or +50 was stock on 98+ JDM ITR's. So they should fit fine.

I believe bridgestone RE71R's and BFG Rival-S are available in 215/45/16. I'd prefer those over R888's.

havok907CRX

I dont know if Ohlins are TUV legal, but the DFV series are pretty well known for their comfort on the street, but still being an amazing coilover on the track. I run 16x7 +42 volk RE30 with a 215/45/16 on my R and I haven't rolled my fenders and there are zero rubbing issues with stock camber from lowering the car about 1-2 inches, if I remember correctly the front camber was around 2 degrees and the rear around 1.1. You could also look into the new TE37 Gravel in 15x7 +45 and try a 225/45/15 on that setup, I don't know if Rays are TUV legal, but I assume they would considering their JWL+R rating is what the OEMs do for their wheels.

Marlin85

OP from now.

Yes, I need Tüv leagel suspension. In Norway they follow what Tüv writes in the document supplied the suspension. From bottom of the fender to center of the wheel.
I will follow that on my car, becuase the goverment do spot check on the road, and the can take my licensplate.

The car will be lovered ex: 50mm.

I will go for 7x16" Wheels. Based on what I've read I'm going to go for ET45 and 205 / 45-16 tires, or can I go for ET40?

testify

You're going to lower the car 50mm?

havok907CRX

With a 205/45/16 ET40 would probably be fine. Like I said, I'm lowered around 50mm and run 215/45/16x7 ET42 with zero rubbing issues.

B serious

iTrader: (1)

50mm?!! Slammed. Why?

Öhlins DFV are not TÜV legal. They have full body adjustment.

The most "agressive" TÜV legal coilovers I can think of are Tein SA's. KW V3's are nice too...but they have softer rear springs than stock.

Maybe Bilstein makes something?

The restriction of the spring always needing to be in contact with the tophat means that any TÜV legal coilover is going to he soft as a wet noodle. Hopefully, you can turn up the rear compression/rebound damping to get more rear roll stiffness.

As far as tyres...no clue why you're going with 205's when 215's exist...

Marlin85

I will lower the car. Not sure how mutch.

Can I fit whit 7X16 ET45 and 215/45-16 Without tire scrub? or can I go for ET40 and 215 tyers?

Thanks for any advice from you

havok907CRX

You realize 50mm is 2 inches right? I still have about a finger and half of gap between the tire and the fender... The car is far from slammed.