SoCal EJ1

Hey guys, I apologize beforehand for posting such a generic question, but I'm looking for a 5-Lug and I need to know if there's any difference between the ITR and CTR setup. I got an offer from someone with a CTR setup... Are the rear trailing arms different than the ITRs? What about the rotor diameters, caliper sizes, and axle sizes?

Any help would be appreciated, as the search function is down and Google isn't helping me any.

Aquafina

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Trailing arms are different. Only 92-95 Civics share the same suspension as Integras. Rotors, calipers, axles are the same unless you get the 36mm ITR.

The Dude

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Aquafina &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Trailing arms are different. Only 92-95 Civics share the same suspension as Integras. Rotors, calipers, axles are the same unless you get the 36mm ITR.</TD></TR></TABLE>
The man knows his legos.

SoCal EJ1

ok, cuz i posted this in the civic forum and got this:

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by madm@nkey &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">USDM ITR is exactly the same as the CTR.
The JDM ITR uses a 36mm axle where as the USDM ITR and CTR use a 32mm axle.
No difference on the trailing arms, rotors, calipers, etc.</TD></TR></TABLE>

legomytego

i am in the middle of doing my front right now and i have the jdm 36mm conversion i got crv axles this will work if i switch the outers to my b series right ? to the op sorry to thread jack but maybe this info will help you if you get the same one as me

Aquafina

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Don't know about the 36mm axles.

If you have a 92-95 Civic use ITR. If you have 96-00 Civic use CTR. D series axles work with both. I get that question whenever someone stumbles onto my writeup.

legomytego

just tried it and if you get the 36mm conversion get the 99 crv axles 5spd with abs and you will be stright good luck

SoCal EJ1

Good info. I'd just be worried about the strength of CRV axles because I should be boosted in the near future.

Aquafina

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Same as any other B series axle... Honda doesn't use special materials to make axles on a certain model stronger.

Rdriver

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I have to dissagree. The trailing arms are the same. The Lca's are different. I have 01 R trailing arms on my Ek. I have also used 90 Integra DA rear trailing arms on 92-95 civic's.

RStoR

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Rdriver is right! I have a CTR 5 lug swap on my EG. It uses the 32mm axle and bolts right up. The front/rear LCAs were replaced since the CTR pieces did not fit.

legomytego

well drivers side is on i f Up the boot on the passinger side so gotta get a new axle again question tho how do you get the ball joints tight i can get the castle nut half way tight then it all just spins ?

Aquafina

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Good to know about the trailing arms. Does anything else bolt up? I got a complete conversion from HMO that included every piece of the suspension minus the front LCA's.

Rdriver

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I would hit it with an impact. If I didn't have air tools would try to get some needle nosed vice grips on the unthreaded part of the ball joint and try to get it started.

Rdriver

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Aquafina &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Good to know about the trailing arms. Does anything else bolt up? I got a complete conversion from HMO that included every piece of the suspension minus the front LCA's.</TD></TR></TABLE>

On the front the only difference in the ITR and CTR front suspension is the upper and lower control arms. I am not 100% sure, but I am guessing the CTR uses the wider shock forks like the 99-00 EM1 SI used in the US.

Tiger_Si

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I have to dissagree. The trailing arms are the same. The Lca's are different. I have 01 R trailing arms on my Ek. I have also used 90 Integra DA rear trailing arms on 92-95 civic's.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i second this guy.

the trainling arm on 94-01 integras will work on EK's, only the LCA are different.
if you are doing this swap, just use your EK LCA in your DC TA

legomytego

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I would hit it with an impact. If I didn't have air tools would try to get some needle nosed vice grips on the unthreaded part of the ball joint and try to get it started. </TD></TR></TABLE>

i will try just dont wanna rip the ball joint the prolly need to be replaced but having the mom drop me off at work takes me back to 8th grade all over ***** gotta stop

Jackson

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rdriver &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I have to dissagree. The trailing arms are the same. The Lca's are different. I have 01 R trailing arms on my Ek. I have also used 90 Integra DA rear trailing arms on 92-95 civic's.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Right. Also, to add to this. The EK9 rear hubs track out 2.5mm wider than USDM ITR. The 98+ JDM ITR rear hubs track out 5mm wider than USDM ITR. They are not all exactly the same.

sheekdude

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jackson &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Right. Also, to add to this. The EK9 rear hubs track out 2.5mm wider than USDM ITR. The 98+ JDM ITR rear hubs track out 5mm wider than USDM ITR. They are not all exactly the same.</TD></TR></TABLE>

You beat me to it... thats why you can put staggered rears on an ek with out them rubbing...

legomytego

what do you guys think of this drivers side crv axle went in fine pass side would not go all the way in. when i took the 36mm outter joint and put it up to my stock 32mm one you can see its just a hair longer is it suppose to be ?


thanks for the help

BlueIntegraBoy

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Oh, and to add further info, brake sizes are the same (between ITR and CTR).

TheJunBuilt

so hereis my question to this thread.. lol... i have a eg6. and got a decent offer on my friends ctr five lug conv... on his ek .. he will trade me my 4 for his 5 lug .. and 200 bucks..will his bolt up no hassle... my four lug has rear discs...

TypeSiR

wrong, rear lower control arms and 36mm axles are the only differences... take his legos away..

TypeSiR

yes will bolt up fine, just use your stock rear lower control arms...

Acura78

One question,

If I have a JDM Integra SI (Practically a GSR)
Does that mean I could bolt the CTR rear hubs onto the existing SI spindle.

Cause I see that you guys are saying that the CTR changes the track by 2,5mm
and the ITR changes the track by 5mm on the rear.

Does that mean the CTR has a shorter hub than the ITR and might be able to bolt onto the SI hub and the bearing will sit properly?