SlapSmak

A buddy of mine texted me today and asked what I thought my R was worth.
I replied about 12-15k, its a 98 with 100k on the clock, car in great shaped cosmetically, clean title, original engine is currently on a stand in the garage. I have all the original parts, plus I have JDM Wheels, OEMS, OEM Interior, JDM Recaros that look brand new, ton of oem new parts in boxes and bags, brand new floor mats in the box, and a brand new 0 Mile Spoon motor in the crate that i picked up in 2002.
He called me and laughed, and then texted me 3 auctions that had ended in the last couple of days. All of the cars had closed in the 25k region.
WTAF i said. He said I could sell mine with the extra motor and all the parts north of $40K.
I said dont tell my wife, and I am never selling it.
Then I looked online and on the HT classified, same story.
Anybody else thinking about selling in the current market or you gonna hold on to your R forever?

DC2-ProdUcTiOnS

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What you should do is sell me that Spoon motor!!!

No but on the real, hold on to your R... If you are looking to off any parts, text me. 845-849-5241. Or if you want to discuss market values of some of the stuff you have hmu.

Rguy

They have gone up, but flat lined a bit. I think itll be a slow, slow climb up from here on out.

btw second dibs on spoon motor!

Prudz_lude

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Can you post a picture of the new spoon motor in the box? I want to believe there are still some in existence lol

4drferio

$40k? for a 98 with 100k miles? or man that means all my 98s with 20-30K miles will fetch for 100k then

Caoboy

PaulMc

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Just go on Bring a Trailer and check out what some of the last ones sold for and that'll give you an idea.

dave7

Where you been living, under a rock?

itr#1334

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Seedc2

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Ever since the first one sold for nearly 35K, everything went ape **** thereafter. ITR prices will not be dropping anytime soon, especially on clean examples

SlapSmak

sPOON
Serial# on tab below B18C
Laser etched. no Factory Serial #
Saw one on Ebay a month ago for 10k-ish

iwannarace

That's an art piece right ther. What are the specs?

dave7

I'm curious too. Spoon internals or oem?

DC2-ProdUcTiOnS

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SlapSmak

Product Description

For the ultimate in endurance racing, Inline Four offers you the Spoon B-series engine assembly. Each B-series engine assembly is a JDM Honda longblock straight from Spoon's engine assembly room. Spoon acquires these blocks from Honda Japan and disassembles them. Prior to reassembly, Spoon precision balances and blueprints these longblocks to ensure optimum performance during endurance racing. These long-blocks are blueprinted down to 0.1g. and include a Spoon 2ply. metal headgasket. This is usually a special order item, but due to the amount of requests, we stock the B18C longblock assembly.

http://www.inlinefour.com/spoonbserena.html
10k on inline4

iwannarace

Sounds like a spec engine. Kind of sucks its not some cool, high-compression, custom-cammed beast. Still sick tho.

feck

Yeah it's "just" the standard engine only blueprinted more(with the Spoon head gasket). Given Honda went pretty **** with balancing and blueprinting in the first place that's impressive in itself. What did they polish the internals with? Raw silk?

Years ago I found out my R got a Spoon engine transplant in its past life(only one owner before me in Japan, so they fitted it). How I found out was my mechanic spotted something odd. The place where the engine number lives was overpainted with orange/yellow paint which signifies replaced engine, then he spotted a small metal tag attached to the block under the exhaust manifold beside where the dipstick pipe is which had "Spoon" stamped in it. Looks like they're not doing that anymore? In my ignorance I thought it should have the yellow valve cover to be a true Spoon engine. Why the original owner changed it I have no idea, as they left everything else completely standard. Maybe the original blew up? I'd be surprised at that. The only aftermarket parts were fancier ignition leads(in red. Which adds at least 25 BHP) and a Spoon thermostat(which I presume came with the engine?). I got rid of that, as the car took ages to get up to temp. Well a guy who was into track days offered me 50 quid for it so, OK... I think the OEM Honda one was 20 quid at the time. Still in it. Must have at least 50,000 miles on it by now.

I seem to remember reading that Spoon offered different levels of engine build, from the "basic" level that SlapSmak outlined above to ones with different cam profiles, lighter flywheel etc?

Having driven over a dozen other R's* and having a couple of mates who ran them for a time, the only thing we've noticed with my engine funny enough, is that it's not nearly as loose. Not as free revving TBH. Though it uses zero oil between 3000 mile services and compression is still above stock spec even after 100,000 miles. To be fair I'd get into VTEC once a month on average(I do mostly city driving) and it only had 25,000 odd miles on it when I bought it and less than that on the engine, which is probably the explanation for the lack of apparent wear and tear.





*I would also say that having driven a fair number, each one is a little different. I found the 96 JDM ones to be the most "revvy".

dave7

I'm pretty sure these engines can still be ordered from Spoon. And I believe they can install various spoon internal parts like cams etc. That's why we were asking the OP about the specs. Afaik the standard spoon b18 has 220hp.

feck

Now pardon my ignorance Dave7, because God knows I've a lot of ignorance to go around, but how would it make power like that? Yes it's a little more balanced than the already pretty balanced as standard engine and it would have slightly higher compression with the Spoon head gasket which IIRC is thinner, but in an otherwise stock installation I can't see it making anything like 20+ extra horses. I can see the more blueprinted engine being ideal for adding better breathing and exhaust, hotter cams, more advance and the like, as it would stand the extra pressures involved better than standard, but on its own?

Which reminds me, one of these days I must dyno mine. I've always wanted to know what it was actually putting out, but I had the paranoia that it would all go well, then there would be a muffled bang, pistons scattered under the bonnet and me in the corner whimpering like a baby.

dave7

@**** We'll I just remember reading that about the Spoon b18 engines a while back, so who really knows. But I'm pretty sure with the balancing and higher comp that it made 220 at the crank.

itr1244

i think im going to keep my itr forever.
if i ever have to buy another car it would be 94 toyota celica LOL

that is a beautiful spoon motor.. but too much $ for hp ..

i got B18c5 built with weisco pistons + calliro pro A connnecting rod + RM M22xx cams + blue printed and balanced
= 192 whp on mustang dyno.
stock b18c5 dyno'd on dyno jet at under 150 whp.

tony_2018

For a well kept ITR, yes. For something that was beaten...might not.