an2ny888

i've noticed tht my kyo-ei lug nuts don't turn smoothly when i'm tightening them down with my torque wrench on my ce's. they seem to catch or stutter, for lack of a better word. does anyone else experience this? i never had this problem with the oem nuts on my oem rims

KOALA YUMMIES

Yeah I've noticed it with certain brands and certain materials. Sometimes the threading isnt all that great. Muteki, Rays, Skunk2 and the discontuned Zenkis were all good for me. The extended version of the Work lugnuts sucked, along with those Kicks project lugnuts with the free spinning lug seat.

migs

I use Buddy Club extended open end lugs. They work great without hesitation. However, I do use anti-seize on them too.

nsxtasy

The lug nuts I bought at the parts counter at Autozone work just fine, never catch, screw on very smoothly. And they were just over a buck apiece.

Circuit Star-29

Silicone spray ftw...

an2ny888

i also use anti seize on them, didn't really help. i'm thinking there might be too much friction between the lug nut and the seating surface on my ce 28's

all_motaUSA

if you're on oem wheels make sure the lug nuts you picked up are ball seat style lug nuts..

aftermarket lugnuts tend to be acorn style and can possibly mess up your wheel and make it difficult to torque down..

an2ny888

i think you're confusing the terms, ball seat and acorn both refer to the oem style lug nuts, while aftermarket lugs are usualy tapered

all_motaUSA

i mean the seat on the wheels..

different seat style lugnuts..>

migs

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Serious? All that does is lubricate it when threading on. The correct substance should be anti-seize.

nsxtasy

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by all_motaUSA &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i mean the seat on the wheels..

different seat style lugnuts..&gt;</TD></TR></TABLE>

You've got the right idea, but the quotes AND the diagram shown above are both wrong.

There are indeed two different shaped seating areas for lug nuts and wheels. (The seating area is the area in which the two come together.) And you do indeed need to get lug nuts with the same shaped seating area as your wheels.

Honda/Acura wheels and lug nuts have a ball-shaped seating area. This is also called spherical or radius.

Aftermarket wheels (and most aftermarket lug nuts) have a tapered seating area. This is also called conical or cone.

The term "acorn" is used to refer to lug nuts that are short, about the same length as they are wide. This term is sometimes incorrectly used to refer to the ball-shaped seating area, not the tapered area as shown in the incorrect illustration above, but it really should refer to the shape of the lug nut. You can have acorn lug nuts with a ball seat, and acorn lug nuts with a tapered seat.

Here are two correct illustrations of the different shapes for the seating area:

all_motaUSA

my bad....that pic, you posted was the pic i was lookin for but couldnt find

Doostur

Some more good info to know.

CDN Yellow ITR

i plan on running the rays extended lugs on my oem wheels will i be ok???

GO-FIGHT-KILL

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I experience the same thing with both my Rays Engineering lugs on my Type-R, and my discontinued Zenkis on my Prelude.

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Most will disagree with me, but you can get away with it. I'm using Rays on my stock wheels right now, and every few days I just go back around and resequence them to make sure none of them are loosening. Honestly, once in a while one or two have loosened up a bit.

It would be safer to run OEM lug nuts, they're only about $40 new at Honda/Acura for a full set.

Circuit Star-29

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Serious? All that does is lubricate it when threading on. The correct substance should be anti-seize.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Anti=seize would be best, but a simple, quick solution can be Silicone spray. Usually spray the threads on the nutz before I reinstall. Last time I did this was last october. Just removed the lug nutz yesterday and were very smooth upon backing them off...