Black R

I'd like to ask you a few questions if you don't mind.....

AssPenny

JDM *****

00MRSi

Where's KENGS/JDM ***** #1? He would probably have some info...

Kengs

Cusco clutch is IN; thanks again to Kenny (Black R) and his pal Dan

Initial impressions....definitely NOT for everyone

Pedal effort is probably 3x that of stock Si clutch (which I don't mind).

Clutch engagement is a weeeeeeeee bit abrupt, even though it is a sprung disc (still getting used to it).

The clanging noise from the metal disc IS LOUD AS FAWK! Sounds like a giant coffee grinder when you depress the clutch. People next to me look at me as though I'm preparing to detonate a bomb

BTW, Dee and Ben@AJR (both of whom are using/have used the Cusco/OS clutch) confirm that this is all NORMAL.

Still breaking in the clutch, will give more feedback later...

The OS Giken flywheel (8.75lbs) is very nice

HKS FF Gear tranny fluid is awesome; shifts are silky smooth


[Modified by kengs, 2:54 PM 7/3/2002]

ITRinEJ1

that's what i gotta try next

le - who is JDM ***** #1A

RICHJ

I have the CUSCO flywheel and Clutch with metal disk also (3 paddle/puk one) like kengs said not for everyone but still drivable, if your pulling away quickly it's great, just don't try creeping out of junctions too slowly.

spoonek4

FYI AJ PwR is selling is OS Giken clutch set I think. U guys can PM him for me info.

Dee

I have used both version of the OS super single and I will be installing a twin with the new engine.

The Cusco version is lighter because of the aluminum cover. The OS steel cover version comes in two sizes. The smaller diameter version is for NA cars. The turbo version can handle more torque eventhough both have the same hp rating of 400whp.


Kengs pretty gave all of the other details. Pedal travel is greatly reduced and my car revs a lot easier now. The clatter is loud because of the metal disc hitting the separator disc and it does get a little bit quieter after about 500kms of usage. The disc are also sprung so they will be a bit more streetable.

SuperTwinz

i have the ats 1300 kg clutch...

AJ PwR

No doubt ATS will be better but lot more EXPENSIVE.

Dee

ATS is the bomb but overhaul kits for ATS clutches requires remortgaging the homestead. The ATS single has smoother engagement but is only rated for 300whp and a lot less torque than the OS/Cusco setup. Ogura also has a super single for Honda's that is rated to 300whp.

AJ PwR

You also have to do some exercise to your left leg like weight lifting

DC2#309

I am using them too and I think they are too good for stock or mildly mod engine, and not to say the very heavy pedals and bearing noise. Still prefer SPoon or TODA clutch, although they are different league.

Kengs

Still breaking in mine...

I gotta say the stiff pedal is actually VERY nice.

The biggest problem thus far is THE NOISE!!! Geez...people are staring at me

The other problem is getting off the line...this clutch needs REVS. About 1800-2000rpm minimum, otherwise you will stall. I've done a lot of chirping (by accident) just to get off the line. So rush hour traffic is definitely no fun (did that yesterday)

Once you get rolling, man it is awesome! Like Jacob said, probably overkill for a lightly modded motor.

So, definitely NOT for everyone. Black R seems to love it. Cosworth definitely hates it. I am somewhere in the middle.




[Modified by kengs, 2:50 AM 7/5/2002]

Mr. Softee

os giken makes some BOMB products, damn i'd kill for one of their piston / rod sets... so pricey though.

Dee

Shane you suck! Adjust the clutch pedal stop so that there is very little play before the clutch actually engages. This will leave very little clutch travel!!! After a few tries you'll figure out the engagement point and will be able to ease away from stops with no problem.


ATS carbon clutches save driveline parts but kill your wallet in the process.