92integraVTECgsr

I'm thinking of swapping a JDM B16 XSI into my 92 gsr.

What would not be smog legal about it?

like whats the deal?

Tornadom

In order for a motor to be smog legal it usually has to be tested, and the results approved by the state, or federal government. Since Japan is not a state, province, or territory of the United States Of America, its smog regulations differ from our own.

KArowd

I believe it has to do with putting an engine into a car thats not supposed to be in there in the first place? correct me if im wrong anyone<3

KArowd

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Or just move to Nevada

Tornadom

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I have seen many parts of Nevada ( ), and have family that lives in various parts of the state. Yet, I still don't want to move there... go figure.

KArowd

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Nevada to live in as a normal person =
Nevada to build any car your heart desires and not worry about anything =

Tornadom

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Nevada to live in as a normal person =
Nevada to build any car your heart desires and not worry about anything = </TD></TR></TABLE>

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watsvtecEK

just don't tell. run the usdm ecu and have emissions devices then nobody will know. the b17 and b16 are almost the same.

Tornadom

Very true. But, if caught with that setup the penalties could get steep.

92integraVTECgsr

ok.. i dont need to hear about that.. I just want to know what the difference if any in the engine's smog wise? like does my B17 have anything that the JDM B16 doesn't have?

Will the JDM B16 just swap and wire straight up into my GSR? remember, I already have an OBD-1 B17 in there now and the swap is OBD-1 as well.

watsvtecEK

the only difference is that the block will say b16 insted of b17. They put out exactly the same emissions. Just make everything look stock ane run a cat when you smog it.

watsvtecEK

why do you want a b16 anyway? id say just buy a itr head and build the bottom of your b17 and it will be maybe a little bit more. or you can just p&p and get an aftermarket valve train and cams. The b16 will feel slower then the b17.

The Notorious Mogg

Yeah, I am pretty sure that has something to do with it. Kind of like how the B20 will not smog in CA because the CRV is considered a light truck and light truck motors cannot go in cars.

92integraVTECgsr

well im buying the JDM B16 XSi Swap. It has 170 hp compared to the B17's 160hp. So actually it will feel faster.

I will be running a cat and I think everything should be good.

92integraVTECgsr

and I dont have that much cash to build my block or do any kind of work to my head. I am selling my b17 swap, and putting a little cash and buying the 170 hp JDM B16 XSi. That should hold me over for a little while.

solareclipseauto

the b16 in a 90-93 integra must be wired to a 94 del sol (distributor,ecu,intake manifold and exhaust manifold). i took mine to the state ref and thats what they said i needed to do to make it legal.

TEST ONLY

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That is so not true, if you convert it to propane,CNG or ethanol, even the BAR will pass and blue tag it.....

Wayne_Curr

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92integraVTECgsr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well im buying the JDM B16 XSi Swap. It has 170 hp compared to the B17's 160hp. So actually it will feel faster.

I will be running a cat and I think everything should be good. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Buying a whole new engine for 10hp?

92integraVTECgsr

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Damn right and 210,000 miles less

This motor in this car is proven to go high 14's. With some CTR cams or Skunk2 Stage 2 Pro Series cams, a good valvetrain, and either a Blox or Skunk2 Manifold down the road, this should be low to mid 14s along with my header, exhaust, intake.

JETSPD1477

man with the money you spent on a b16 you could have rebuilt the blacksheep...

&lt;3 B17

Wayne_Curr

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92integraVTECgsr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Damn right and 210,000 miles less

This motor in this car is proven to go high 14's. With some CTR cams or Skunk2 Stage 2 Pro Series cams, a good valvetrain, and either a Blox or Skunk2 Manifold down the road, this should be low to mid 14s along with my header, exhaust, intake. </TD></TR></TABLE>

hahaha, i feel ya there man. I hate my high mileage engine as well hehe.

How much are you paying for this B16? I take it its a good deal or else you would have gone with a bigger engine. I would think that if you're going so far as to spend all that money on a new engine you might shell out a bit more on a b18 but to each their own. Good luck with the swap.

TEST ONLY

For the money K20a2/K20r is the only way to go....

92integraVTECgsr

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I hope you are joking. K20 anything into a DA is well over $6000.

It is costing me $1200 to upgrade to the JDM B16 XSi. I wish I could afford an ITR or B18c1, but I do not have that much money.

And yeah I could rebuild the B17, but it's gonna cost more than $1200 to do a real rebuild. I don't do things half way, and I just didn't feel building the b17 was going to be worth the time and money.

TEST ONLY

It sounds like alot of cheese, but K20a2's can be had for $3000 bucks. A K20a2 will handle almost anything you wanna throw at it.

Tornadom

Even if you get the K20 for 3k, how much more will you spend on custom mounts? A custom radiator, header, axles, shift linkage, engine management, and other assorted goodies to make it all work?