zeroptzero

I got my 2000 Integra this year, I was told that the timing belt was replaced at 120,000 kms, and by mileage the next change would be in about 50,000 kms, as it currently has 190k kms on it now. But the car is 18 years old now, so I don't know how old the belt is in terms of years, though it was changed at the right mileage. I was going to consider changing it in 1-2 years, it would probably take me 10 years to put 50k kms on it at the rate I drive it. Do you guys recommend changing the belts based on miles or age or both ? I don't see any signs of cracking or abnormal wear. I would hazard a guess that the belt could be 5-7 years old, but I really don't know. Thanks for any replies.

tony_2018

whichever comes 1st

zeroptzero

thanks for the reply , to be safe I should try to replace it this year then. I wonder if the belts have any dates on them in terms of manufacturing dates ?

MotorMouth93

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I've never seen dates on a timing belt, but then again I haven't looked super hard. If you don't know when the belt was done it's better to be safe and do it sooner rather than later. Also do the water pump and belt tensioner at the same time. It's a pricey job at a shop but it's a 4-6 hour job if you DIY it and not too difficult on B-series motors. The hardest part is getting the crank pulley bolt off.

NVturbo

Replacing a timing belt isn't hard.....if you know what you're doing and have the proper tools. If you have neither, pay the piper and be done with. Just make sure the shop/person doing the work is competent.

zeroptzero

thanks for the added replies, while I've never done one it is certainly within my capability and I have all of the tools that I need. A friend of mine lent me the crank pulley tool.

Is it okay to use an impact gun to remove the crank pulley bolt, I would not use it to install the bolt , but only to remove it.

MotorMouth93

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zeroptzero

Thanks kindly for the info. I just ordered a timing belt kit, looks like it comes with a crank seal so I might as well do that while I'm in there. Good thing it's winter storage season here, so lots of time to get this crap done. lol.

NVturbo

Replace the water pump (and bolts) as well as the accessory belts.

zeroptzero

Sure thing. I'm getting the water pump with the timing belt kit I ordered - belt, tensioner, water pump, cam seals, and crank seal. I'll check on the water pump bolts not sure if they come with the kit, never thought about replacing them. I just cut off the accessory belts to get them off quickly for now.

I just took my Ingersoll Rand to the crank pulley bolt and it zipped off nicely. Step one done.
Well on my way to getting this abortion over with. lol

NVturbo

If it was up to me, I WOULD NOT have bought that timing belt kit unless all the components were from Honda. I've personally seen water pumps that don't fit properly. 4 of the 5 holes line up but the 5th one is off.

shipo

Yup, either the Aisin kit (which does not include the cam and crank seals), or the full OEM kit (which does include the seals but is pricey).

zeroptzero

I bought one of the more expensive kits, it comes with an NPW water pump, Nippon - made in Japan. Looks like I will be replacing this every five years as I will never hit the mileage so trying to avoid the expense of a Honda kit. If it does not line up then it is going back as fast as it arrives.

tony_2018

There usually isn't but what OP hasn't specified is how long has the car been driven just short periods, has it been sitting like some 401k investment type deal, etc...etc....

if sitting like some 401k investment how long has it been sitting. I'm saying this because I had to work on a type r engine that only sat it someones driveway, for 10 yrs and then it sat it someone else's garage for another 10 yrs. It had low mileage but every damn seal was blown.

zeroptzero

The car was daily driven for 18 years by the original owner, about 10,000 kms per year (6400 miles). Since I got the car this summer it will be a 3 season only car, not to see winter again. It will be garage kept and driven on weekends, perhaps 5,000 kms (3k miles) per year from this point onwards.

The car has zero leaks, pretty good for a b-series Honda. While the car was well maintained and in great general condition,, the coolant was in terrible shape, which tells me the last timing belt change may have been more than 9 years ago ?

tony_2018

was it a mix of blue and green?

zeroptzero

It was a very odd yellow orange colour and very watery looking, with rusty looking deposits everywhere. Definitely not the blue green Honda fluid. This is odd as the car was meticulously maintained in all respects but the coolant fluid. I've drained and flushed and refilled with proper fluid and replaced the thermostat and rad cap , going to do new hoses now with the water pump, so good time to get that water pump out of there now.

zeroptzero

It took me a few hours to get this taken apart. I noticed the previous installer put gasket sealer on the water pump gasket, I don't see that listed anywhere in the shop manual as being needed, not sure what to do on reinstallation if I should use the gasket sealer or not ?

I couldln't tell how old the belt or water pump were, the idler pulley looked very old and is likely in need or replacing, rusty deposits in the cooling system looked bad so it was good to get this water pump replaced IMO.

MotorMouth93

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zeroptzero

That's what I was thinking, thanks for the reply and setting my mind straight on this.

zeroptzero

I found a leaky crank seal while I had things torn apart, my timing belt kit comes with a new seal so I should be able to shove it into place to end that leak hopefully.

tony_2018

if its the correct size, might as well order cam seals too.

zeroptzero

yeah I will see when it all arrives, cam seals are provided in the kit as well. Thanks.