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Old 01-25-2011, 09:55 PM
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I have been searching what kind should I get for new timing belt, water pump and tensioner on my 94 B18c1 GSR STOCK motor....

Which one of these will be good on my gsr stock motor????

Gates Blue Racing (click on the link)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...K%3AMEWAX%3AIT


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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ACURA...Q5fAccessories
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get a genuine Honda one. Why do you want a "gates super insane blue *** racing bitch"?

The honda one goes for 100k miles and you can't beat OEM quality.

www.bernardiparts.com is a good place to get them.

I always also get (all genuine Honda):
-water pump
-front main seal
-cams front seals
-tensioner and spring
-accesory belts (they're cheap anyway...although I don't mind buying these elsewhere)
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get a genuine Honda one. Why do you want a "gates super insane blue *** racing bitch"?

The honda one goes for 100k miles and you can't beat OEM quality.

www.bernardiparts.com is a good place to get them.

I always also get (all genuine Honda):
-water pump
-front main seal
-cams front seals
-tensioner and spring
-accesory belts (they're cheap anyway...although I don't mind buying these elsewhere)
did u check the second link???

its little cheaper than the website u gave me......

second thing, is it REQUIRE to replace the front main seal and cams front seals during timing belt, water pump, and tensioner same time???
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did u check the second link???

its little cheaper than the website u gave me......

second thing, is it REQUIRE to replace the front main seal and cams front seals during timing belt, water pump, and tensioner same time???
The timing belt has to come off to do all that work, so might as well do it all at once. I also always change cam and crank seals while changing timing belt. Did it at 180K miles and again at 270K miles. I changed the timing belt only at 90K, and got lucky I guess that the water pump and all the seals did fine until 180K.

I cannot recall ever having a single issue with any OEM Honda part I have installed on the car in the 10 years I have owned it, from 89K miles up to the current 297K miles.
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i always opt for the gates belts, people fail to realize that honda parts are made by an OEM manufacturer and rebranded honda, gates belts are gates belts, and their racing belts are excellent quality, i love those kevlar reinforced designs.
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Let's remember that the OP is asking about a stock engine.

The Gates Racing timing belt is 2-3 times as much as the OEM Honda timing belt from a place like Carland Acura www.acuraautomotiveparts.org What is the point of using such a belt on a stock engine?

Then you consider that the eBay link above with the Gates Racing belt includes what appears to be no-name water pump and tensioner pulley, and suddenly that package doesn't seem so great for $180.

For a stock engine, get the OEM parts for $180-$190 and call it a day, until it needs to be done again 90K-100K miles later.
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sorry? gates sells a timing belt component kit for 80 dollars that includes a brand new water pump, oem timing belt, tensioner, and whatever else is needed for the timing job.

GATES Part # TCKWP247 More Information About this Part PowerGrip Premium OE Timing Belt Component Kit W/Water Pump; 3 Components (1 Belt, 1 Tensioner, 0 Idlers, 1 Water Pump) $81.79
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oh lawds I wouldn't trust that kit for a second, not for 90K-100K miles.
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oh lawds I wouldn't trust that kit for a second, not for 90K-100K miles.
you serious right now? lol
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go to a local parts store and buy the oem parts, i just bought the OEM timing belt for 36 bucks... the timing belt and tensioner kit is 90 bucks...plus 60 for water pump...why you need a racing kit for a stock car?
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you serious right now? lol
Yes I am serious, I would not trust a timing belt, water pump, and tensioner pulley that costs the same as an OEM water pump by itself.
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Let's remember that the OP is asking about a stock engine.

The Gates Racing timing belt is 2-3 times as much as the OEM Honda timing belt from a place like Carland Acura www.acuraautomotiveparts.org What is the point of using such a belt on a stock engine?

Then you consider that the eBay link above with the Gates Racing belt includes what appears to be no-name water pump and tensioner pulley, and suddenly that package doesn't seem so great for $180.

For a stock engine, get the OEM parts for $180-$190 and call it a day, until it needs to be done again 90K-100K miles later.

good point, i do understand now, i was thinking more on gettin oem parts for timing belt kits

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go to a local parts store and buy the oem parts, i just bought the OEM timing belt for 36 bucks... the timing belt and tensioner kit is 90 bucks...plus 60 for water pump...why you need a racing kit for a stock car?

oh i see, now thats not bad deal

true once its stock motor n get oem parts right....

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If you count the teeth on the water pump in the first link on the close up pic. You will notice it's a 19t generic pump and not a 22t. You don't want that on a gsr. If you installed what is in the picture it would be a ls timing belt and pump. With those two parts it would work but cause cavitation at higher rpm. It may be a generic picture but I would not buy it because the picture isn't correct.
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In the decade I've been doing my own maintenance and repairs on my Integra, the phrase "you get what you pay for" holds true for so many things in so many instances.
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since patrick thinks of so full of "misinformation" i pulled part of the US supplier list for honda service parts manufacturers for 2010

ADVICS Manufacturing Ohio, Inc.
AGC Automotive Americas Torrance,
California
AGC Automotive Americas Bradford,
Ontario, Canada
AGC Automotive Americas
Bellefontaine, Ohio
Aisin USA Mfg., Inc.
American Mitsuba Corporation
Asama Coldwater Mfg.
ATC Drivetrain
Bando USA, Inc.
Bucyrus Precision Tech, Inc.
Cardington Yutaka Technologies, Inc.
Cardington Yutaka Technologies, Inc.
CMWA
Continental Automotive
Custom Engineered Wheels, Inc.
DENSO Logistics Tennessee
DENSO ASMO Manufacturing Inc.
DENSO Manufacturing Athens
Tennessee
DENSO Manufacturing Canada Inc.
DENSO Manufacturing Tennessee Inc.
- Electronics Plant
DENSO Michigan Automotive
Compressor, Inc.
Doyle Shamrock Industries
DTR Industries, Inc
Dyna-Mig Mfg. of Stratford Inc.
Elesys North America
F&P America Mfg., Inc.
F&P Mfg., Inc.
FCC (Indiana), Inc.
Filtech Inc.
Filtech Inc
Florida Production Engineering, Inc.
Gold Eagle Co.
Greenville Technology Inc.
Hi-Lex Controls
Hitachi Metals America / AAP St.
Marys Corp.
Hitachi Metals America Ltd.
Honda Lock of America Co., Inc.
Honeywell
Idemitsu Lubricants America
Corporation
Kaba Ilco Corp
Kamco Industries, Inc.
Katayama American Co. Inc.
Keihin Fuel Systems, Inc.
Key Fasteners Corporation
Kokoku Rubber Inc.
Koyo Corporation Of Usa
KTH Parts Industries, Inc.
Litens Automotive Partnership
M-Tek, Inc.
Matsu-Matcor Manufacturing Inc.
MBL (USA) Corporation
McCord Leakless Sealing
Mitsubishi Electric Automotive
America, Inc.
Musashi Auto Parts Canada Inc.
Musashi Auto Parts -Michigan, Inc.
NGK Spark Plugs (U.S.A.), Inc.
Nifco America Corporation
NK Parts Industries, Inc.
Remanufactured Parts
Ohashi Technica U.S.A. Inc.
Omron Automotive Electronics,
Inc.
Pacific Manufacturing Ohio, Inc.
Pioneer Electronics (Usa) Inc.
Rollstamp Manufacturing
Sensical Inc.
Shape Corporation
THK America
Tigerpoly Manufacturing Inc
TOMASCO Indiana LLC
Topy America, Inc.
UGN Inc.
US Yachiyo, Inc.
Ventra Plastics - Windsor A
Division Of Ventra Group Co.
Weastec Inc.
Yamada North America Inc.
YSK Corporation



and thats directly from honda, i dont lie about the **** i post, i just tell it like it is.
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heres the link for anyone interested

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What is your point? I don't dispute that OEM Honda parts come from those manufacturers. Hondas are full of Denso, Nippondenso, NGK, Mitsubishi (alternator), Yamada, Nissin, and many other branded parts.

However the water pumps shown in some of those links above appear to be a "no-name" version, whereas one from Honda will say "Yamada" on it. I don't trust no-name parts like that, for such a critical part to engine operation.

Anyway, that's my opinion, you have your opinion. OP can take them for what they're worth.
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ebay is never the best place to buy parts for anything
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As for that Gates timing belt kit with water pump, I'm sure the Gates belt is just fine. By itself the belt is around $35 which is the same price if you get it from Honda. But then you have the tensioner pulley and water pump together for basically $50 or less. I simply do not trust those parts being of OEM quality when they're sold that cheaply.

Again, that is my opinion. Take it or leave it. It's not hurting or insulting anyone in any way, shape, form, or fashion.
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I have been searching what kind should I get for new timing belt, water pump and tensioner on my 94 B18c1 GSR STOCK motor....

Which one of these will be good on my gsr stock motor????

Gates Blue Racing (click on the link)

94 95 Acura Integra GSR B18C1 Gates Blue Racing Timing Belt Water Pump Tensioner | eBay


Honda Genuine OEM (click on the link)



ACURA INTEGRA 96 01 GSR WATER PUMP TIMING BELT OEM | eBay
Honda timing belts are made by gates oem is fine but the racing ones that gates put their name on are several times stronger if you are going to abuse your car than the gates racing belt is your best bet but if it's just your daily than stock oem is good
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