tonydize21

im about to buy an engine and i came across this ive been googling but this is my case the motor is in a shop that sells jdm motors
also this is suposed to be an 96 97 jdm itr motor they do have the 98 01 for 300 more dollars is it worth it?thanks for your help guys!

racebum

by all appearances that's an itr, the valve springs should have a dab of yellow paint on the intake and blue/green on the exhaust as well

the p72 block is shared between them

stupid things run so rich on the OE ecu that aftermarket cats last about 2 years, maybe less before they melt

tonydize21

ok ill look at it tomorrow,btw i read in another thread you mention that the 96 doesnt come with port&polish is it worth the extra bucks?2.4k and 2.7k for the complete longblock fair price?thanks!

FlewByU352

If the 98 motor comes with the header and trans then IMO it is worth it. Figure you can use that header or sell it for cash and buy a better one. The biggest difference is the transmission. If it is $300 more for the 98 and it has the trans with it then I'd do it. 4.7 final is great.

tonydize21

nope idoes not come with the tranny just the long block im planning to use my gsr 4.40 tranny but besides that any other diferences?and no header

Todd00

I forgot that this is the ITR parts forum now. I should know better than to click into these threads.

What's that going in OP...a 93 Civic sedan?

michaelz

not the case. 96 spec is hand ported while the 98 spec is machine ported. differences are negligible. the $300 is basically for the 4.78 final drive like mentioned.

from the pic it looks like a 96 spec motor since the 98 spec JDM motor has a faux carbon spark plug lead cover.

tonydize21

mmmm,i didnt read that part that you need to have a complete itr to talk in this forum and yes is going in a db8 now you are going to tell me to go to the integra forum?

Todd00

We don't need to swap motors in here...we already got one from the factory.

And yes, there are better forums for questions like these.

tonydize21

this is easy pal if you dont want say something helpful just dont come in and talk ,the only reason im doing a swap is because my motor broke not because the itr motor is better,im not looking foward to be part of this forum because people like you is because i tought that the itr owners now about their engines more than the gsr and non vtec owners that are way more humble than you and just because daddy bought and itr doesnt make you cool looser

baller status

I don't understand why you got all butt hurt and went off. He didn't say anything offensive. It's just the internet...

From the intake manifold you can very quickly tell the difference between and ITR and an Sir-G.

tonydize21

im not mad its just make me sick when people think they are better than others

(We don't need to swap motors in here...we already got one from the factory.And yes, there are better forums for questions like these)

i just want an answer from the guys who own the motors and my concerned was that you could easily change the i/m and the valve cover i did not know that the jdm itr came with the pr3 head thanks for your input

and btw i really hope that guy never had to do a swap cause you will have to pay someone to do it for you but its ok here you dont need to do a swap that means that itr motors are unbreakable

Todd00

lol, daddy bought me an ITR? How old are you kid? I'd be willing to bet that when I purchased my ITR brand new, you were lucky to be old enough for elementary school.

Regardless, your questions are better served in a forum where folks are swapping motors all the time (unlike this forum). And yes, our cars come from the factory with USDM ITR motors. Why does that makes you think we'd know a whole lot about JDM 96 spec motors, other than the documented differences (that you could have easily looked up yourself)?

If I have to do a head swap, I'm buying a new head from Acura. It's not all that difficult.

racebum

fixed

tonydize21

I didnt knew that acura sells parts seems that you now a lot mr.old guy
Havent seen one yet

tonydize21

And btw just because you know nothing doesnt mean nobody knows **** too ill bet there is a lot of people in this forum that knows,can you read?

Todd00

Not saying no one knows anything here. But, wouldn't you rather post in a place where the percentage is a bit greater, and where folks have went through this same thing?

Why would a USDM ITR forum have a wealth of knowledge about a 96' spec (or sir-g) motor? Again, our cars did not come with either and we probably aren't swapping them in or buying them off of online motor swap places.

Would you rather fish in a puddle or in a lake?

tonydize21

This is the itr forum not the usdm itr where do you read that this is exclusive for usdm?whats this the playboy mansion???im not going to keep arguing with you i aoready have the answer

94eg!

iTrader: (2)

The extra money for the 98+ trans is not really worth it IMO (just my opinion here). While it does have a shorter final drive, it is coupled to longer running gears. I know a lot of people think it's better, but all the changes made to the 98-spec JDM R translated into almost zero difference in performance on the track. The only reason to pay more for the newer engine is simply because it's newer (and might have less miles).

BTW: You could use the money you saved from not buying the 98-spec and buy a 4.7 final drive for your existing trans. Then your car WOULD be quicker. The set sells for $410 on Hmotors. I don't know what's involved in installing it though:

http://www.hmotorsonline.com/shop/sc...age&item=10006

tonydize21

Thats good to know good finding im thinking making the trannyblsd too is it worth?besides the launch?

Dogginator

Oh good lord.

The PR3 head and the P73 intake manifold indicate that it is an ITR engine. Look at the casting dates for the specific year.

Erik95LS

This is probably better asked in the ITR forum

coolhandluke

iTrader: (2)

Agreed. Why isn't this in the ITR forum?

thewrai6th

Apparently because it's not going in an ITR chassis, noone cares. Kind of a 'holier than thou' attitude over there. I think it got moved here.
At any rate, I believe he got the answer he was looking for.

Dave-ROR

Also agreed. But then Todd's vag might get hurt again.