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Old 07-20-2017, 08:49 AM
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I recently discovered low compression in one cylinder due to bad exhaust valves. I removed the head and had it serviced by a machine shop. After re installation, I now have perfect compression across the board. However, it hasn't run QUITE perfectly ever since.

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Slightly lumpy acceleration (occasionally)
I have had to advance spark timing more than normal (about 20 degrees BTDC) anything lower and it runs even worse, not sure if this is just because I am at elevation.

Anyways, I would like to confirm that I have the timing correct, please take a look at the following pictures and let me know what you think.



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reset ecu?
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Originally Posted by tony_2018
reset ecu?
Oh I wish it was that simple, ECU has been reset a couple times since the work was done.
Any thoughts on how my timing looks?
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Timing looks correct to me.
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Originally Posted by Stillare
Timing looks correct to me.
Thanks for the input, wouldn't mind a few more opinions for my own piece of mind, then I can start looking elsewhere.
Old 07-20-2017, 09:35 AM
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Did you turn the crank by hand a few revolutions to insure the timing still lined up?
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Originally Posted by Stillare
Did you turn the crank by hand a few revolutions to insure the timing still lined up?
Yes I turned the crank after I removed the valve/timing cover to line up the marks, not only that but I have put about 500 miles on it since I originally took the head off.

Just trying to diagnose why it isn't running perfect... it's close, but not perfect.
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That looks loose but at TDC, try tensioning the belt properly, should be very tight on top and straight not loose.
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Originally Posted by wunfstgsr
That looks loose but at TDC, try tensioning the belt properly, should be very tight on top and straight not loose.
I thought the belt looked a little loose up top as well, but wasn't sure.
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Originally Posted by Stillare
I thought the belt looked a little loose up top as well, but wasn't sure.
Its loose like a goose lol
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Yeah it is, he needs to rotate it to verify tdc at cams and crank. If he did it wouldn't look so loose, also don' try to rotate it counter-clockwise if you miss your mark.
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Ok so the belt looks loose eh? I appreciate the advice, I will get in there this weekend and attempt to increase the belt tension, thanks so much!
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Default Re: Does my timing look correct to you? (pics)

line up the crank pulley to TDC (just like you have it in one of the pics).
loosen up the belt tensioner
use a 12mm socket wrench/box wrench and slightly rotate the cam gear bolt (CW)
tighten belt tensioner
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Follow up: You guys were right, opened her up and found a mightly loose belt. I had not even considered, when I had the head machined, they said they milled it a tiny bit, which no doubt resulted in a looser belt. Thanks to the great people here, the belt is now tight like a tiger and she is humming along nicely!

Just wanted to say thanks to all of you who took a look at my post, I love Honda Tech, one of the main reasons I have been able to keep this beauty running strong for nearly 14 years now, you guys are the best!!!
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Great news! I wonder if this could benefit from adjustable cam gears, to correct for the milling.
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Good to hear OP!
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Great news! I wonder if this could benefit from adjustable cam gears, to correct for the milling.
​​​​​​​If the the cam gears are still lined up and at TDC there's no need for adjusting cam timing, if you do that you should know your PTV clearances and set ignition timing and have a aftermarket tuning ems to properly time and tune the fuel maps. Using the stock ems is fine as long as cam timing is not adjusted.
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