VVENOM800TT

Thanks alot man, i will definatly get this kit once the money comes around.

But do you have an upgrade for tha back as well. Like an s2000 rear caliper for the back? i hate how friggin small that rear caliper is. Anything bigger as long as it doesnt interfer with the e-brake.

BrakeExpert

For the back, the ITR and CTR rear calipers will bolt up. They use a 10.2" rotor and the pad is twice as big. You can use the EP3 02-03 rear disc, as its 4x100 and 10.2" so it becomes bolt on affair. The S2000 rear calipers are just too big for that rotor, so they fall off the edge of the rotor. I am working on an 11" rear upgrade using ITR/CTR/EP3/RSX rear calipers, though the RSX/EP3 ones require a slight modification (swap left to right, and change the L-bracket and e-brake hammer and all is well.)

VVENOM800TT

Powerslot have a big rotor kit for my car and the rear "big" rotor is 11.1", are there any calipers that would fit that size rotor?

I think the s2000 rear rotors are that big (11.1"), so is there any way you think that could work?

Just a though, let me know what you think.

Cliffs:
Buy powerslot plus upgrade for the rear (11.1") and put on an s2000 rear caliper

BrakeExpert

Probably not. I looked into it, and the S2000 caliper mount (the spindle) is different. Because of how close the bracket is, I don't think making a relocator bracket is doable.

VVENOM800TT

Ok, it was just a hough. Becuase i want to effectively upgrade the back as well, and you said that the ITR rear caliper is larger than the stock GSR, and will bolt up fine. But is it a "big " upgrad, like the front would be or miniscule?

Also the 2006 TL has 11" rear rotors, do you think the caliper could work woth the Powerslot kit, right now i'm just throwing out ideas that possibly could work with the powerslot kit, or some other 11"ish size rotor.

I really appreciate all the help by the way.

BrakeExpert

The ITR rear brakes I would call a pretty good upgrade, I mean the piston is bigger and the pad is twice the size. This is pretty good given that a lot of people do the front upgrade and none at the back. The front brakes do maybe 70-80% of the braking on our FWD cars. The difference would be noticable at first, but it may sorta blend in. The 10.2" jump to the 11.1" in the back...same pad and piston size, so its just a bigger rotor. Same thing, noticable at first, but itll blend in. I'll have an 11" rear brake upgrade hopefully within a month. (the powerslot kit is a relocator, bigger rotor, but the same caliper and pad, so its not really a big difference.

VVENOM800TT

Ok

I know that the powerslot kit is just bigger rotor, which is one of the things i want, for better cooling and to fill in hte gap from my 17's.

But are you saying that you can make a kit for the rear with an 11" rotor and ITR caliper?

If you can, how much will that run?

And regarding the front kit, will it come with stock pads or something a little more performance oriented?

And if the ITR thing would work in the back would that call for a new MC since all 4 calipers are now bigger?

And is the $950 shipped?

Thanks again for the help

BrakeExpert

I can make a kit for the rears using an 11" rotor, though its still in the works. I do not have any rear ITR calipers at the moment. I don't know the pricing yet cause I don't know how long its gonna take me to make the relocator bracket.

The front kit will come with a set of EBC performance pads. 950$ shipped is for the whole front setup, the calipers, rotors, new pads, brackets, and lines.

VVENOM800TT

I really want the front kit at least, i just need some more paychecks. College books are not cheap. Neither is insurance.

But let me know when you get the final product for the front, coilovers and camber kits are the only things in front of you i line right now. But if you still have them when i have the money, i'm all over.

P.S. the calipers are new right?

BrakeExpert

That's fine, let me know when you are ready, I'll hold onto a set for you, but try not to keep me waitin weeks and weeks, ya know?

By the way, the calipers are used but are very low mileage and in fantastic shape. New calipers are over 900$ a pair alone.

VVENOM800TT

yeah i know what you mean on the waiting. What year car are the calipers off?

And is it just a base model RL?

Edit: P.S. You said that the calipers alone were $900 a peice, i was looking around online, and i found this

http://www.acuraoemparts.com/d...=Part

It lists calipers as $385 a peice, is this wrong?

EDit #2: How many sets are you making? Because i just remembered that i need a new clutch/flywheel and a timing belt, but i think i want to squeez you in before the coilovers though, just to get this stuff because it's an amazing setup IMO. So im looking at about 6 weeks maybe, i think 8 tops, will that be a problem?


Modified by VVENOM800TT at 5:03 PM 8/30/2007


Modified by VVENOM800TT at 5:37 PM 8/30/2007

BrakeExpert

Damn I overpaid. All model RLs have essentially the same drivetrain/brake everything, its all tech stuff, but all RLs have the same brakes. That site I guess sells em cheaper than my local dealer, hehe.

I currently have 3 sets, but I can make you a set in the future. 6-8 weeks is fine, just let me know and I'll be able to machine another pair of brackets. Keep me posted.

VVENOM800TT

Ok thanks you soooo much, but does that mean that i can get the caliper new ? Since it will be in the future.

And regarding the rotors, they would be new as well right, and chance i could get them slotted?

Again thank you very much. I'll keep you updated.

BrakeExpert

I can get you the calipers new, but the kit will cost more. The rotors will be new, but currently I don't know if they come in slotted form, that would probably cost more as well.

PatrickGSR94

iTrader: (1)

Interesting calipers. I never knew the RL had 4-pot fixed calipers up front.

But I thought that calipers with pistons on both sides usually had 2 bleed screws, one for each side of the caliper. Wonder why this one doesn't?

Also, how are you supposed to bleed the air out if the bleed screw isn't on the highest end of the caliper? Looks like the calipers need to be swapped sides to put the bleed screw on the upper end of the caliper, so the air bubbles will rise up to the bleed screw.

VVENOM800TT

so 770 for new calipers right (pair) + shipping, but you also said that you got them for more used, so why more expensive if you can get them for cheaper new?

Rotors on that same site are $95 a peice so thats another $190.

So thats like $960 total.

But can i use my same lines, because i ahve goodridge lines and i don't really want to pay for new ones when i pretty much have the best.

I guess it just comes down to how much you're gonna charge for the bracket then.

I would really like it to be $1100 or less if possible, but let me know what you think. THe rotors at least have to be new.





Modified by VVENOM800TT at 3:46 PM 8/31/2007

BrakeExpert

Well plus the cost of pads. Also you do need these brake lines. The RL caliper uses a screw in hardline, not a banjo bolt like our calipers, so I'm including the hardlines and a set of softlines (if you want stainless, get a set of F-F stainless lines, like for the back of a Honda civic with rear drums.) My calipers i got used but they werent more, I just said that I paid more than I could have. Plus the cost of bolts and **** and the brackets, itll be around 1300$ shipped, 1100$ is just not feasable with new calipers. Honestly there is nothing wrong with em used, Honda calipers don't really go 'bad'. The only way to brake a Honda caliper is that guy who ran his pads to the backing plate and heatsoaked the **** out of his, gluing the pad to the piston.

The RL caliper's hydraulics are internal and sealed, imagine a U running through it (like the spoon caliper but inside.) It only needs one bleeder. Yes the bleeders will be pointing up, I got the wrong caliper on that picture.

ND40oz

Quick question, aren't the 07+ MDXs brakes the largest arcura has ever released, using 13" rotors in the front and 13.2" rotors out back? Unless your referring to caliper size, but then it's hard to find specs on the actual clamping area.

BrakeExpert

possibly, but they don't use a 4 piston caliper, and the pad isn't as large. The Ridgeline also uses these brakes, well at least the front. The MDX caliper is also a steel one, so the weight of it is probably more than double the RL's caliper, which can be noticable.

VVENOM800TT

Ok i got you on the price, because both my front calipers are starting to seize and the nearly constant screeching is pissing me off tremendosly.

So $950, lets stick with that then, but you still haven't told me if i can get the rotors new. And what would the price difference be?

I don't know much about calipers, so thanks for the quick info on them.

Yeah but thats fine then used parts, as long as the're not gonna die on me before my car lol. (193,xxx miles).

BrakeExpert

I can get the rotors new, and it'll be an extra $75 for them. These calipers are very reliable. Don't know why yours are seizing, but these should last you another 193,000 miles, hehe. PM me and we can get this going.

BrakeExpert

12.6" RL brakes now available in 4x100 form.

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wish you can fab those up for my rears.

BrakeExpert

I can, but those would make MASSIVE rear brakes. In order to keep a near stock brake bias, you would need even bigger fronts, and given that the limit for wheels is about 18" with rubber band tires (for REAL track racing) that's still gonna be hard to fit a setup under an 18" wheel that is gonna be beefy enough to correct the bias of using this 4 pot caliper and 12.6" rotor in the back.

jdm_dc_fan

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PM me the price and specs for best break setup for 15 inch wheels.