krshultz

November 3-4, Triangle Z Club and Tarheel Sports Car Club are hosting a high performance drivers' school and time trial at Carolina Motorspors Park. Anyone who reads this board should go (many already are).

The format for the weekend will be fairly typical HPDE stuff. This one, however, is inexpensive and promises to be a lot of fun. What you'll get...

1. Lots of time on track. The usual ~3 hours (1.5 per day), give or take a bit depending on how many people we get.

2. Carolina Motorsports Park in November. Many of you know that I'm a big CMP fan - it was, after all, the site of my first "is that thing supercharged" experience.

3. Top-flight in car instruction. Many familiar faces will be there to help you get better.

4. Lots of seat time.

5. A well organized event. The School and Time Trial in mid April, for those of you who weren't there, went extremely well. John Downing, long time head of track events for Z Club, puts on a quality program.

6. Did I mention lots of seat time?

7. AND...for those of you with some experience and some safety equipment...a Time Trial at the end of each day. The Time Trial requires experience (2 schools where you've been signed off), SCCA Solo 1 safety gear and (without the fire suit). You say your friend got you at a 1:57 this morning? Prove it! We've got a state-of-the-art timing system and a permanent staff dedicated to the TT portion of the weekend. You can participate in, or simply just watch...
- Peter Reinhart laying the smack down in his (mostly stock) E36 M3
- The "D Street Prepared Asskicking Contest" (thanks for the quote Scott), featuring Whitney, MaddMatt, SPiFF, hopefully madhatter, possibly RoadRacer, myself, and others.
- r2x battling for the 2001 title in B Stock
- Some really fast drivers pushing themselves hard

It's going to rule...and you need to be there. Want more information? It's all here: http://www.thscc.com/timetrial/. Or you can post here for the skinny...or IM me...or email me...or whatever. Sign up soon - we sold out the April event...and it was on Easter weekend.

r2x

Well, everyone who's anyone will be there so if you aren't there, you'll miss it! Great opportunity for some great instruction and seat time with the added excitement of a TT at the end of each day. Come on out and play with us.

*blush* I got mentioned in #7... thanks Rice... really...

B18CXr

Sorry but I'll be at Summit getting my ECHC ducks in a row.

whitney

Unfortunately, the head of our Time Trial program had to schedule on top of NASA... I'm a member of our Time Trial program, and, trust me, we won't be stepping on NASA dates next year. Right Karl? A lot of us are turning into NASA event junkies, be it for ECHC, the inexpensive HPDEs, or the ProKhanas.

But, man, is the Time Trial at CMP gonna be fun. I just need to go spend some money on my car before November so I won't get too embarassed by all those bastards in DSP Integras...

VAtypeR00@work

Yeah that sucks, there is a NASA event at summit point the same weekend.

Bryan

phat-S

Speaking of getting too embarassed by all those bastards. . . what kind of times are the ASP cars spitting out? MAF is allowed in SP right?

MaddMatt

I am so there. CMP in November might not be 107 degrees.

Phat-***, er, S: Check out http://www.thscc.com and look for the results from last year's TT there. I'm pretty sure there were some cars in ASP.

Matt, who was also mentioned in #7 and will be at the wrong end of the DSP *** kicking contest

SPiFF

Yo Karl ..

I will be there representing for in DSP! I just won't be able to send in my money for a little bit. Sept is a rough month around my house.

Save #18 DSP in TT and advanced .. puuleeezzzz.

krshultz

Results from previous events:
4-15-00: http://www.thscc.com/timetrial/event...lts041500.html
4-16-00: http://www.thscc.com/timetrial/event...lts041600.html
8-26-00: http://www.thscc.com/timetrial/event...lts082600.html
8-27-00: http://www.thscc.com/timetrial/event...lts082700.html

This year at VIR-South:
4-15-01: http://www.thscc.com/timetrial/event...lts041401.html
4-16-01: http://www.thscc.com/timetrial/event...lts041501.html

Since Whitney and some others mentioned it...yes, I'm making every effort that I can to make good and sure that THSCC doesn't schedule any track events over top of NASA. This particular conflict, unfortunately, was a track availability problem. NASACHRIS and I are already talking about this - I'm confident that conflicts will be minimized in '02.

Catch 22

I'll be there.
Can I run in DSP and waive points?
If not, I'll run in ITS.

krshultz

I'm not sure we want you in DSP, Mr. 1:55

whitney

I'd be fine with you running BS

Actually, the class doesn't matter too much, cause we'll all be competing on times just like at an autocross. This spring karl was running around the paddock bragging about beating most of the BSP guys, and the ASP guys, and, well, almost everyone. The TT is pretty neat, cause we do live announcing of times and quite a crowd ends up spectating and cheering the TTers on.

Wuh-oh, gotta run before Diane comes and kicks my *** about that BS comment....

J28S

So, would I like be in CSP? Forgot SOLO II rules, but as I recall IT prepped cars go in street prepared, right? Hmmmm!

How will times be used? Do you get a 1/2 lap warm-up, 3 hot laps then a 1/2 cool down? Basically a SOLO I event? Just curious....

r2x

Mmmmmm DAMMIT!!! NO... Scott can't run in BS... even on a bicycle... or rollerblades... DSP Scott, that's the class for you...

Honda318dx

You know I would love to be there, but I gotta be at summit for the NASA licence.. Im sure yall won't miss me =~)

krshultz

Technically, "yes but." I don't think the Type R is classified for IT-*anything* just yet, if for no other reason than it's not old enough (needs to be 5 years old IIRC). But I think your car is still CSP legal regardless.
Depends on where the timing lights end up - but we'll probably do 1 or 1.5 warmup lap(s), three hot, and a full cooldown. Best laptime from any of the three is what you're scored on.

An I *wasn't* running around bragging...I was too busy defending myself from the viscous middle finger attacks from Whitney.

Trickturn

Vroom, Vroom!

whitney

Actually, (if I understand this correctly), the IT -> SP bumping is only allowed in Solo II, not Solo I, since Solo II does NOT recognize IT classes. Solo I recognizes IT classes just fine.

And you have to admit, some of the things you can do in IT and not in SP are much more of an advantage on track. Many of the things you can do in SP and not in IT are much more of an advantage for autocross.

On a related subject, everyone should absolutely can any thoughts of ever applying the PAX system to judge Time Trial / Solo I results. There are too many ill-handling, but high power cars out there that are in low-pax classes, and vice versa. Usable power makes a huge difference on all those long straights... Not so much at an autocross.

Catch 22

The SEDIV Solo I program allows IT cars to run in their SP classes. Whichever they choose. The only thing (as stated in the rulebook) you have to be careful about is mixing the rules.
In other words, you couldn't run a stripped interior (illegal in SP) with 8" wide wheels (illegal in IT).

SP cars can't run in IT classes unless they meet IT safety rules (full cage, etc.)

In short, I could run in DSP or ITS. My choice.
Jon is legal for ITE (catch-all regional class), so he could run in his corresponding SP class - CSP.

krshultz

Oh happy day. Guess we'd better feed RoadRacer plenty of during the evenings...

phat-S

I am lost (per usual in SCCA classing) but if Jon is in ITE and I would go to ITE, then why am I in ASP and Jon is in CSP? Just lost

krshultz

I *think* it's because the car would go to whatever SP class it would go into otherwise. So if, for Solo 2, your car goes into ASP...you're in ASP.

whitney

Ahah! My bad... I thought I had read otherwise somewhere. Come run in DSP, especially if there aren't any other ITS cars around. It'll be fun. In April, a bunch of Prepared/ITE/SP/AS BMW M3s got together and decided to all run in BSP to have a big class. It was cool. We can do the same for DSP. I'd like to see a class of 6-8 cars.

Or we can all just run in BS <ducking>...

r2x

Actually, I'm not even gonna be able to run BS, unless Kauffman doesn't mind an aftermarket clutch... mine has given up and I see no point in putting in a stock one just so I can run BS in 2 more events this year. CSP, here I come.

MaddMatt

Makes sense to me.