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Old 03-29-2006, 01:02 PM
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I have searched, and have reached nothing but dead ends. I have also searched the internet to no avail.

I am not looking for a plug, but a replacement panel to keep the unit operational.

If anyone could point me in the right direction, I would be most grateful, as I'm trying to rebuild her ASAP.

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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...wItem

$290 on ebay, this guy has been selling these plugs for the past couple of years. Hope that helps.
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ive seen people have a mold made for the sunroof anf just use the original supports and operating material but replace the skin of it. its looked pretty tight. or you can always just wrap your in carbon. if you contact a major carbon fiber manufacturer such as fiber images they might give you a discount for you letting them use yours as a prototype...
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That is a plug, not a replacement panel.
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$290 for a flat piece of carbon, some angle brackets, rivits, and screws. expletive that. It looks like **** too with all those rivits showing.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by djphonics &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">$290 for a flat piece of carbon, some angle brackets, rivits, and screws. expletive that. It looks like **** too with all those rivits showing.</TD></TR></TABLE>

price out sheet carbon from raceplates, and you'll find that adam's plug kit is not only kick *** quality, but it is also pretty well priced. what do you pay for water-jet cutting around you? those are countersunk cap screws with nylock nuts, and they, like the rest of the included hardware, look awesome. i can't say enough for adam's quality service and craftsmanship.

all the fucktards that feel like they can trash on quality products from enthusiasts (lighter-faster, ASR, etc) about how they can make them cheaper and better need to get a clue about what quality small-volume fabrication is about. [/end rant]

to the op, i don't know why you'd want a cf piece in the operable sunroof (it'd probably be heavier when you got done, cost a grip, and look worse than the oem panel) unless yours is toasted and can't find a new panel.

if you just want the look there's always stick on cf vinyl (since while half my car is cf, i value its looks about the same as i do the vinyl)

either way, i'm pretty sure it was seti who has a version of what you are looking for, if my memory serves me correctly.


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https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1382230

his linked page has pics, inside the cosmetics section. i'm not going to link the pic so that i don't fry whatever bandwidth he has left. if he chooses to add the pic later that's up to him.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rsca_crx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

i'm pretty sure it was seti who has a version of what you are looking for, if my memory serves me correctly.


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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rsca_crx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

price out sheet carbon from raceplates, and you'll find that adam's plug kit is not only kick *** quality, but it is also pretty well priced. what do you pay for water-jet cutting around you? those are countersunk cap screws with nylock nuts, and they, like the rest of the included hardware, look awesome. i can't say enough for adam's quality service and craftsmanship.

all the fucktards that feel like they can trash on quality products from enthusiasts (lighter-faster, ASR, etc) about how they can make them cheaper and better need to get a clue about what quality small-volume fabrication is about. [/end rant]
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Thanks for implying that I am a "fucktard". Gotta love the brilliant bunch of people on this forum . First off, let me tell you that I do know how low volume fabrication works because I am a mechanical engineer at a company that does very small volume stuff and I know how much it costs to machine stuff, etc... The reason I'm ripping on this kit is because the plug has no curvature so it is just a generic sheet of carbon. You could do this with pre-preg no problem. Yes its water cut, but there are probably other ways to do this and get good results to cut costs with this low of volume. "Countersunk cap screws, nylock nuts".... WOW DUDE THAT'S CRAZY!!!. Check this out:

http://www.mcmaster.com

You can buy boxes of any god damn screw or nut you can think. Oh and let's not forget that the kit even comes with a garden variety bottle of silicone sealer! OOOooooo now it's worth $300. I'm not planning on making CRX sunroof plugs any time soon, but I can tell you that if I did, it would look better than that rivet-infested thing and I could sell it for $150 and still make a profit.
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yea i totally wanna ditch my sunroof..

but, is it POSSIBLE to have a remoable plug, so you can have the benefits of having a sunroof, just that you need to remove the whole plug itself...and keep in the car if needed, this way you can have the sunroof..and not have the weight as well..

provided there are measures taken to prevent water leaks or a way to anchor the roof down so it doesnt fly away...but...just a thought..
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by djphonics &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Thanks for implying that I am a "fucktard". Gotta love the brilliant bunch of people on this forum . First off, let me tell you that I do know how low volume fabrication works because I am a mechanical engineer at a company that does very small volume stuff and I know how much it costs to machine stuff, etc... The reason I'm ripping on this kit is because the plug has no curvature so it is just a generic sheet of carbon. You could do this with pre-preg no problem. Yes its water cut, but there are probably other ways to do this and get good results to cut costs with this low of volume. "Countersunk cap screws, nylock nuts".... WOW DUDE THAT'S CRAZY!!!. Check this out:


http://www.mcmaster.com

You can buy boxes of any god damn screw or nut you can think. Oh and let's not forget that the kit even comes with a garden variety bottle of silicone sealer! OOOooooo now it's worth $300. I'm not planning on making CRX sunroof plugs any time soon, but I can tell you that if I did, it would look better than that rivet-infested thing and I could sell it for $150 and still make a profit.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i didn't imply anything. i called you out. you and everyone else that thinks they can do a better job from their armchair. we should thank guys like lighter-faster, ASR, and RC Autoworks for developing products for our cars.

here is the the cf sheet he uses. high quality autoclaved prepreg. it's the best, and it aint cheap. http://www.macqc.com/raceplates/

a curved piece is not needed in any way- it sits perfectly flush. it is a ruled curved surface and can easilly be formed from flat sheet. this also allows for a thinner piece due to the internal stresses that are formed within the sheet and stiffen the assembly. all it would do is make for a MORE expensive piece that would likely be thicker, and require much more in terms of manufacturing, not only due to the nature of autoclaving in a mold, but also the relationship that someone renting time on a per-piece basis from a manufacturer that an enthusiast low-volume builder has. but you knew all that.

i know where to buy fasteners. my point is that they aren't run of the mill things, they are very well chosen, and they aren't the cheap way out. again, quality.

and last, better than a water jet for cf sheet? how. i cut a lot of this ****, and i know how much it costs and how it works. that is the way to do it right, and the rental time and running costs aren't low.

finally, you dont like the rivets (well, you would if you tried it, since it holds up a lot better than epoxy in real life situations), then check out the bond-in kits that the same company offers.

you want to copy their design and get it done a little cheaper now that the design work has been done? go ahead- people do it with every product imaginable every day. want to sell it? well, try it. but don't rag on a small-time fellow enthusiast who is offering you and everyone else quality stuff at reasonable prices.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rsca_crx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

i didn't imply anything. i called you out. you and everyone else that thinks they can do a better job from their armchair. we should thank guys like lighter-faster, ASR, and RC Autoworks for developing products for our cars.

here is the the cf sheet he uses. high quality autoclaved prepreg. it's the best, and it aint cheap. http://www.macqc.com/raceplates/

a curved piece is not needed in any way- it sits perfectly flush. it is a ruled curved surface and can easilly be formed from flat sheet. this also allows for a thinner piece due to the internal stresses that are formed within the sheet and stiffen the assembly. all it would do is make for a MORE expensive piece that would likely be thicker, and require much more in terms of manufacturing, not only due to the nature of autoclaving in a mold, but also the relationship that someone renting time on a per-piece basis from a manufacturer that an enthusiast low-volume builder has. but you knew all that.

i know where to buy fasteners. my point is that they aren't run of the mill things, they are very well chosen, and they aren't the cheap way out. again, quality.

and last, better than a water jet for cf sheet? how. i cut a lot of this ****, and i know how much it costs and how it works. that is the way to do it right, and the rental time and running costs aren't low.

finally, you dont like the rivets (well, you would if you tried it, since it holds up a lot better than epoxy in real life situations), then check out the bond-in kits that the same company offers.

you want to copy their design and get it done a little cheaper now that the design work has been done? go ahead- people do it with every product imaginable every day. want to sell it? well, try it. but don't rag on a small-time fellow enthusiast who is offering you and everyone else quality stuff at reasonable prices. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Ok man you make some reasonable points. However:

On the rivet issue, I guess I wasn't totally clear in that what I was saying is that the setup LOOKED really bad because all of the rivets were exposed and looked very fighter-jet like which i don't think looks nice on a CRX sunroof because let's be honest here - that kit is going to sell to some street drivers who want a clean look.

As for the carbon, well that may not be the cheapest place to get it, but then again carbon prices have been known to fluctuate tremendously so this is a tough call. I will still argue that a curved form would fit nicer. This would require different fabrication techniques. Perhaps the carbon could be molded such that the cut edge curved downward and could be covered by a finishing piece inside the car? Then you wouldn't be so concerned with that laser cut edge on the 2D plug that we are talking about...

Anyway, I will be the first to apologize if I came out attacking on this one. I just got a bit fired up over the prices that these people are charging for an item that I don't think should cost anywhere near that to produce on the level they are selling them. However, you are totally right - I am being an armchair critic. . I am glad we had this conversation and I hope you will someday get to use some of the quality products that I hope to produce in the coming years.
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that was pretty big of you- it's not very often a thread gets turned back around after getting heated around here. it just burns me when people forget that many of these little specialzed companies are just regular guys trying to further the sport and not go bankrupt doing it.

i do think you should see the lighter-faster kit in person since it is an extremely clean install, but i've said what i think of the kit so i'll leave it at that.

now somone want to help the op out?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rsca_crx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i didn't imply anything. i called you out. you and everyone else that thinks they can do a better job from their armchair. we should thank guys like lighter-faster, ASR, and RC Autoworks for developing products for our cars.

here is the the cf sheet he uses. high quality autoclaved prepreg. it's the best, and it aint cheap. http://www.macqc.com/raceplates/

a curved piece is not needed in any way- it sits perfectly flush. it is a ruled curved surface and can easilly be formed from flat sheet. this also allows for a thinner piece due to the internal stresses that are formed within the sheet and stiffen the assembly. all it would do is make for a MORE expensive piece that would likely be thicker, and require much more in terms of manufacturing, not only due to the nature of autoclaving in a mold, but also the relationship that someone renting time on a per-piece basis from a manufacturer that an enthusiast low-volume builder has. but you knew all that.

i know where to buy fasteners. my point is that they aren't run of the mill things, they are very well chosen, and they aren't the cheap way out. again, quality.

and last, better than a water jet for cf sheet? how. i cut a lot of this ****, and i know how much it costs and how it works. that is the way to do it right, and the rental time and running costs aren't low.

finally, you dont like the rivets (well, you would if you tried it, since it holds up a lot better than epoxy in real life situations), then check out the bond-in kits that the same company offers.

you want to copy their design and get it done a little cheaper now that the design work has been done? go ahead- people do it with every product imaginable every day. want to sell it? well, try it. but don't rag on a small-time fellow enthusiast who is offering you and everyone else quality stuff at reasonable prices. </TD></TR></TABLE>


By the way, according to the website you posted, they are going out of buisness, and are selling the rest of their inventor. Thought I'd let you know if already did'nt.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rsca_crx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">that was pretty big of you- it's not very often a thread gets turned back around after getting heated around here. it just burns me when people forget that many of these little specialzed companies are just regular guys trying to further the sport and not go bankrupt doing it.

i do think you should see the lighter-faster kit in person since it is an extremely clean install, but i've said what i think of the kit so i'll leave it at that.

now somone want to help the op out? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah man I haven't been on this particular forum very long but I've learned pretty quick that some pretty hard core flaming goes down on a regular basis. I think a large part of the problem is that there's so many users on here and a constant bombardment of people who sign up to ask one question without searching or providing enough useful information to even be helped out.

And yeah I would love to check out the install of the kit in person. I will keep my eyes peeled for one in my area.
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cf sunroof would be pimp as hell
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Seti has one on his car. There's a guy in Europe who is selling them to people in the US, they are a little expensive though. He has CF roofs, cargo covers, del slo tops etc. link
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Arospeed used to make carbno fibre replacement panels for the CRX. They've been discontinued though.

I found one of these for my CRX a couple months ago online - a guy was clearing out all the stuff from his store. I'm sure there are some stores that have these in stock.

I haven't installed mine yet, but I've examined the mounting points and they're exactly the same as the stock sunroof panel. If you need one in a bad way, I'd probably be willing to part with mine. IM me if you're interested.
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Why don't you take a look at this:
http://www.carcraft.com/techarticles/56999/
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old thread, but either way when ever you can get anything carbon fiber at a quality level whether you make it or not let me know djphonic
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