accordselux

Has anyone seen these yet? I saw they were out in a magazine at the newsstand but they're not on Skunk2's site yet.

They're a composite fuel rail that weighs 33% less than other rails (oh yea, shaving ounces off the curb weight) but the good thing is they said they were compatible with all types of fuel, even alcohol.

Just wondering if anyone has seen these, know what applications there are, or if someone's used them.

0VtecKiDD

Rumor is they are Carbon Fiber.

they will not be on sale until May, i have one on order already

hu

What about compatability with fpr's?

d16dcoe45

I don't think they are carbon fiber. I had a Bontrager seat for a mountain bike many years ago--and the rails were "carbon composite"--it didn't look like carbon fiber--its like fiber reinforced plastic--the rails eventually broke on me but the seat was very light (165 grams)--I think the Skunk 2 rail is made of the same material--I think the real advantage is not the weight or the compatibility with alcohol--but the fact that it won't heat soak as easily as an aluminum rail.

cptengineer

Sweet! Plastic. . You know alot of cars now-a-days have "composite" peices. Like the plastic manifolds toyota and dodge use. But you can get away by calling anything compostie if you mix materials such as plastic and fiberglass. This I have to see

93-lsvtec-eh2

i think there are supposed to be carbonfiber

ATL-Honda-Tuner

I am almost posative that they are Carbon Composite.

Another added benefit (the main one) is the way it doesn't absorb heat like the aluminum rails do.

revolt_allmotor

sounds blingtastic. I want one.

accordselux

Me too...I didnt know fuel rails absorbed that much heat to begin with though....hmmm...

I believe they ARE carbon composite, not strictly carbon fiber, I don't think the pic looked like CF.

Justacleansi

its carbon composite.. 100% positive.. ive seen it... looks sick.. should be out within the next few weeks im hoping... i want one too its the same material as the skunk2 plenum spacers for the G35 and 350Z. that stuff... is amazing.. i dont even know if god could break it... ha but yea they are sick

GSRCRXsi

so what if the fuel rail heat soaks... doesnt hot gas atomize better anyway? its not like it gets hot enough to boil it... i just dont see the point. guess its a part for the JDM carbon fiber bling ******

ATS*Mark

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um since when has that been a problem ?? lol.

Aquafina

iTrader: (3)

cool fuel is always better IMO

DonF

It will have some advantages over the AL ones, plus it will match their Carbon Composite intake manifold when it comes out.

Aquafina

iTrader: (3)

Be quiet Don. You are making me want a B series.

Justacleansi

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How do you figure... its not carbon fiber... and on top of that... whats the problem with someone finally doing something new in this market? Maybe its just me, but im kinda getting sick of seeing the same EVERYTHING but in a new color, a.k.a. fuel rails, sway bars, etc. Skunk2 is finally taking the first stand and making something completely new. And if they are doing the same thing but with manifolds next, WAY more power to them. I know i will be one of the first on MY street to own one.

GSRCRXsi

you act like just because its new, that its necessary. IMO, its not. theres nothing wrong with a stock fuel rail. youre tired of seeing the same thing? what else could you want from a sway bar? you want a CF sway bar too? let me know how long it lasts, or how well it works. function over fashion. a CF fuel rail is completely useless, especially when the stock piece is more then enough. and i say CF, cause about half the people in this thread said CF and i was referencing the people who buy anything just because its CF, or in this case CC, just because it "looks cool". if its carbon composite, it doesnt chance my mind that its still useless.

accordselux

Huh?

I want to see tests.

I need an optional return line fitting so aftermarket is what I need.

If this performs better than BDL, AEM, Golden Eagle, etc, in any way (power production, fuel economy, longevity, more fitting options) then it's my choice.

It's a new product and if I like the results i'll get it.

I went on here asking if anyone knew about it so I could make the decision.

ATS*Mark

i would still like to see evidence that fuel rail heat soak is a performance issue.

BryanPendleton

From a manufacturing standpoint I do not see how in the world you could use carbon fiber for a fuel rail, just too impractical from a manufacturing standpoint. . .

I would imagine that the fuel rails will cast or injection molded or perhaps some sore of extrusion process. Carbon Fiber and resins do not lend themselves to this type of process. Most likely some sort of polymer with composite filler. Most auto manufacturers use a Nylon 66 with various glass fillers and mineral fillers for add strength and other properties. . .

ATS*Mark

if it was cf or a true composite i would be worried about particles getting into my fuel system.

accordselux

it's a composite, not cf...Skunk2 doesnt even have any info on their website but it's been featured as a new product in a magazine already

GSRCRXsi

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exactly
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If this performs better than BDL, AEM, Golden Eagle, etc, in any way (power production, fuel economy, longevity, more fitting options) then it's my choice.
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the only way you would see any kind of performance gain, is if your fuel rail was the bottleneck in your fuel system. unless your running like 1000cc injectors then i highly doubt it is. you wont see any gains in power, or change in mileage just by switching a fuel rail.

accordselux

that's the debate of the heat though if that affects peformance or economy which I know nothing about

ATS*Mark

why would it? its not like the temp of the fuel makes it less/more dense . colder air is obviously better i dont need to explain that. but the same doesnt apply to fuel, its getting sprayed into a hot compustion chamber so i dont see how its even an issue.