auto manual 05 civic - Honda-Tech

lifes_simple · 02-20-2007, 06:19 PM

i drive an 05 civic LX and i hav a turbo sitting at home for it. i kinda of thinking about swapping my auto to stick but i dont know if it safe. has anyone ever done it? i live in illinois, so if anybody knows a save guaranteed place that can do it the pease tell me =/

Curiouz_G · 02-20-2007, 06:32 PM

its safe and as been done. my question is, if your going to spend so much, why didnt you just go for a K series? swapping to a manual from an auto then turbo'ing will cost you just the same as a K swap.

oh and on another note, i think autos are just fine to boost. no overrevving, dont have to be worried about misshifts, and it has 4 gears

20vroc · 02-20-2007, 06:33 PM

its poopy

Vermont · 02-20-2007, 06:37 PM

Soory to say if your planing to turbo an auto i would so dont do it as it just wont give you the amount of control over it as you would have with an manual. Every time iv ever seen a auto thats has been modded out its allways beat by a manual that has maybe just I/H/E
so i would just do as he says and go for the k-swap even though it is pushed over much its still the best option.

fventura03 · 02-20-2007, 06:55 PM

here's a list of what you need for the conversion (i think this is all of it):

Tranny (w/ flywheel & pressure plate)
Tranny Starter
Tranny mount
Axles
Clutch Solenoid
Hard & Soft Clutch lines
Master Clutch Cylinder
Slave Cylinder
Shift Linkage
Shifter Assembly
Pedal Assembly
ECU

here's a couple of links if you want to get everything OEM:

http://www.hondaautomotivepart...81%29
http://www.hondaautomotivepart...LEASE
http://www.hondaautomotivepart...ERTER
http://www.hondaautomotivepart...LEVER

your best bet would be to get the bigger stuff from a junk yard, and buy the small stuff from honda.

if you're doing this yourself, you're probably looking at spending a good $1500 - if you find cheap parts at a junk yard, buy your clutch master cylinder, clutch/flywheel knew though. i think everything else might be ok being used. just depends how picky you are if you want everything brand new, or if you're ok with used parts.

good luck.

sujak · 02-20-2007, 09:11 PM

http://suja1.com/index2.html

in carol stream, IL

tell them Zack sent ya, but good luck trying to get an appointment for the next couple months, they had about 6-7 cars in their garage on friday.

they will do it for $1500 (parts & labor included) you'll need a manual ecu and reflash though so you dont throw a CEL that will probably cost you an extra $150

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Originally Posted by Vermont

Soory to say if your planing to turbo an auto i would so dont do it as it just wont give you the amount of control over it as you would have with an manual. Every time iv ever seen a auto thats has been modded out its allways beat by a manual that has maybe just I/H/E
so i would just do as he says and go for the k-swap even though it is pushed over much its still the best option.

you're post is irrelevant you're comparing a d17 with i/h/e which everyone knows does jack shit to a turbo auto vs turbo manual. I would bet on the auto d17 turbo from a roll over the manual since you dont have to break boost every shift.

it's been discussed on the old 7thgencivic.com along time ago by Paul (Dezod), good luck finding it. No i wont find it.

Curiouz_G · 02-21-2007, 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vermont

Soory to say if your planing to turbo an auto i would so dont do it as it just wont give you the amount of control over it as you would have with an manual. Every time iv ever seen a auto thats has been modded out its allways beat by a manual that has maybe just I/H/E
so i would just do as he says and go for the k-swap even though it is pushed over much its still the best option.

willing to put your cash where your mouth is?

unless the guy in the turbo auto civic doesnt step on the gas, i dont see him losing against a bolt on manual civic in a straight ling race. 164whp & 142wtq on 5 PSI is what dezod quotes for an auto civic. no matter how good of a driver you are, you cant beat someone with more power and someone that doesnt need to shift

lifes_simple · 02-21-2007, 04:27 PM

but i heard that you CAN lose to a manual becuase you have more control of the power. Also about that shop in carol stream, ive been there many times, i know a guy there named Jason.

mrtrinh · 02-21-2007, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Curiouz_G

willing to put your cash where your mouth is? unless the guy in the turbo auto civic doesnt step on the gas, i dont see him losing against a bolt on manual civic in a straight ling race. 164whp & 142wtq on 5 PSI is what dezod quotes for an auto civic. no matter how good of a driver you are, you cant beat someone with more power and someone that doesnt need to shift

hes right... theres no way a manual civic with bolt ons (especially on 7th gens) can beat an auto turbo

major in cosmetics · 02-21-2007, 05:01 PM

where can u find a turbo kit for a 7th gen auto?

toyomatt84 · 02-21-2007, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by major in cosmetics

where can u find a turbo kit for a 7th gen auto?

http://www.dezod.com

lifes_simple · 02-21-2007, 06:06 PM

so you guys are saying i should just boost my auto for now ? then swap transmasions later ?

fventura03 · 02-21-2007, 06:19 PM

your choice

sujak · 02-21-2007, 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lifes_simple

but i heard that you CAN lose to a manual becuase you have more control of the power. Also about that shop in carol stream, ive been there many times, i know a guy there named Jason.

Jason is one of the owners, talked with him last friday.

My car will be going in march 22nd or 23rd for 5spd conversion and than im finishing up my turbo build and hopefully installed july/august

Curiouz_G · 02-22-2007, 01:07 PM

again, unless the guy in the auto turbo'd civic isnt at full throttle or is having some type of malfunction, there is NO way a turbo'd auto civic will lose to a manual civic w/ bolt ons. a drag race doesnt matter if you have more control over your power or not. all you have to do is stomp the gas and go in an auto.

lifes_simple · 02-22-2007, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sujak

Jason is one of the owners, talked with him last friday.

My car will be going in march 22nd or 23rd for 5spd conversion and than im finishing up my turbo build and hopefully installed july/august

what car do you drive ? its a dumb question cuz were in the 7th gens section, but i just wanna make sure. also ill come stop by on those days to check it out.

sujak · 02-22-2007, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lifes_simple

what car do you drive ? its a dumb question cuz were in the 7th gens section, but i just wanna make sure. also ill come stop by on those days to check it out.

check out http://members.brimd.com/sujak/Zack%20Car/

yea i just got my manual ex ECU today, now gonna see what else is up with Jason. and probably they will start to get the parts for it.

bgoetz · 02-22-2007, 08:05 PM

Just buy a new car or Kswap

lifes_simple · 02-23-2007, 02:39 PM

hey sujak, i was wonderin if u wanna meet up one day ? with all those people in your crew like boost jukkieand stuff if your interested ?

sujak · 02-23-2007, 02:44 PM

We are going to be at factory 5 tomorrow from like 10am to whenever. and June 2nd is a meet at busse.

lifes_simple · 02-23-2007, 03:39 PM

on weekeneds i have school for ACT's practice from 9-12:30. whens another time when we can all meet ?

tfnaaf · 02-23-2007, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vermont

Soory to say if your planing to turbo an auto i would so dont do it as it just wont give you the amount of control over it as you would have with an manual. Every time iv ever seen a auto thats has been modded out its allways beat by a manual that has maybe just I/H/E
so i would just do as he says and go for the k-swap even though it is pushed over much its still the best option.

Dont sing it , bring it! I'll put my Boosted auto trans civic against ANY d17 em2 with MT I/H/E ANY day of the week. As far as boosting on auto trans, Mine Car had 20,000 miles? on it when i installed NAAWSSS. Then @ 26,000 miles turbo. @ 36,000 miles trans went BOOM, lol. So yes you can boost a AT civic with moderate good results

em2power · 10-09-2008, 12:12 PM

I realize that this is an older post, but i have a couple of questions, first off, are the auto and manual subframes and engine mounts interchangeable, and also is the steering rack from a auto to a manual the same.... I got quoted 2200 to do a swap just for labor... which seems ridiculous to me... but then again Im not an expert...

toyomatt84 · 10-09-2008, 10:48 PM

You don't need to change the steering rack at all, as it's mounted to the firewall, not the sub-frame.

02-20-2007, 06:19 PM	#1
lifes_simple Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: glendale heights, il, united states Posts: 69	auto manual 05 civic i drive an 05 civic LX and i hav a turbo sitting at home for it. i kinda of thinking about swapping my auto to stick but i dont know if it safe. has anyone ever done it? i live in illinois, so if anybody knows a save guaranteed place that can do it the pease tell me =/

02-20-2007, 06:33 PM	#3
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02-20-2007, 06:37 PM	#4
Vermont Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: COP Ford, Baghdad, Iraq Posts: 226	Soory to say if your planing to turbo an auto i would so dont do it as it just wont give you the amount of control over it as you would have with an manual. Every time iv ever seen a auto thats has been modded out its allways beat by a manual that has maybe just I/H/E so i would just do as he says and go for the k-swap even though it is pushed over much its still the best option. __________________ R.I.P. Christopher Fox, 4Golf for all eternity.

02-20-2007, 06:55 PM	#5
fventura03 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Usulutan,, El Salvador Posts: 10,235	here's a list of what you need for the conversion (i think this is all of it): Tranny (w/ flywheel & pressure plate) Tranny Starter Tranny mount Axles Clutch Solenoid Hard & Soft Clutch lines Master Clutch Cylinder Slave Cylinder Shift Linkage Shifter Assembly Pedal Assembly ECU here's a couple of links if you want to get everything OEM: http://www.hondaautomotivepart...81%29 http://www.hondaautomotivepart...LEASE http://www.hondaautomotivepart...ERTER http://www.hondaautomotivepart...LEVER your best bet would be to get the bigger stuff from a junk yard, and buy the small stuff from honda. if you're doing this yourself, you're probably looking at spending a good $1500 - if you find cheap parts at a junk yard, buy your clutch master cylinder, clutch/flywheel knew though. i think everything else might be ok being used. just depends how picky you are if you want everything brand new, or if you're ok with used parts. good luck. __________________ -Freddy myspace.com/fventura03 (add me if you <u>know</u> me) http://is.rely.net/1-92-29999-l-fB0G...ln5q4yPjlA.gif

02-21-2007, 04:27 PM	#8
lifes_simple Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: glendale heights, il, united states Posts: 69	Re: (Curiouz_G) but i heard that you CAN lose to a manual becuase you have more control of the power. Also about that shop in carol stream, ive been there many times, i know a guy there named Jason.

02-21-2007, 05:01 PM	#10
major in cosmetics Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: USA Posts: 17	Re: (mrtrinh) where can u find a turbo kit for a 7th gen auto?

02-21-2007, 06:06 PM	#12
lifes_simple Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: glendale heights, il, united states Posts: 69	Re: (toyomatt84) so you guys are saying i should just boost my auto for now ? then swap transmasions later ?

02-21-2007, 06:19 PM	#13
fventura03 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Usulutan,, El Salvador Posts: 10,235	your choice __________________ -Freddy myspace.com/fventura03 (add me if you <u>know</u> me) http://is.rely.net/1-92-29999-l-fB0G...ln5q4yPjlA.gif

02-22-2007, 08:05 PM	#18
bgoetz Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Maumee, OH, US Posts: 547	Re: (sujak) Just buy a new car or Kswap __________________ K'ed up 201whp and 151 torque on a mustang dyno

02-23-2007, 02:39 PM	#19
lifes_simple Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: glendale heights, il, united states Posts: 69	Re: (sujak) hey sujak, i was wonderin if u wanna meet up one day ? with all those people in your crew like boost jukkieand stuff if your interested ?

02-23-2007, 02:44 PM	#20
sujak B A N N E D Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 389	We are going to be at factory 5 tomorrow from like 10am to whenever. and June 2nd is a meet at busse.

02-23-2007, 03:39 PM	#21
lifes_simple Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: glendale heights, il, united states Posts: 69	Re: (sujak) on weekeneds i have school for ACT's practice from 9-12:30. whens another time when we can all meet ?

10-09-2008, 12:12 PM	#23
em2power Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: in the middle of, Texas, U.S. Posts: 374	Re: (tfnaaf) I realize that this is an older post, but i have a couple of questions, first off, are the auto and manual subframes and engine mounts interchangeable, and also is the steering rack from a auto to a manual the same.... I got quoted 2200 to do a swap just for labor... which seems ridiculous to me... but then again Im not an expert... __________________ Build:http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=2233468 FUC* theives.... RIP Riley's dc2......

10-09-2008, 10:48 PM	#24
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