Racers, post your last ditch, extra HP secrets - Honda-Tech

xDicktonesx · 01-15-2007, 05:51 PM

In nascar, during qualifying they smear sterno-flame inside their intakes. the fumes form the paste is flamable and is good for a few hp.

the 5 liter mustang guys put those freezer cooler cubes, the blue ones, in the bottom of their intake boxes for a few hp.

i have frozen the intercooler on my brothers supra powered pickup truck jsut before a pass with a fire extinguisher. jsut spray it until icicles form during staging.

what do you do right before a pass?

xDicktonesx · 01-15-2007, 07:23 PM

68 views and you mother****ers would rather post in the

"how do i build an lsvtec?"-type threads.

pssshhhhh this forum is worthless.

b19guy, buy some of this shit and do it tommorow.

Bisimoto · 01-15-2007, 07:25 PM

I pray!

LSVTEC 91 Civic · 01-15-2007, 07:48 PM

How would a cool-can work in an EFI application???

Always was curious about this...

Jay_Sensing · 01-15-2007, 07:58 PM

Usually I double check my boost controller to make sure it's on low, look at my bottle pressure, and then try to forget there is a car next to me and just race myself. If I think about the other car, I will effin redlight every pass.

mgags7 · 01-15-2007, 08:12 PM

Icing the fuel line would work just as well for us as it does for domestic guys

The sterno thing is hilarious, thats good stuff

type B16 · 01-15-2007, 08:13 PM

i rev the shit out of my motor and hit the rev limiter in the pits. it sounds like it get faster everytime i do this and all the ricers give me thumbs up.

just kidding.

b19coupe · 01-15-2007, 08:48 PM

I rev the shit out of the car in the burnout box until my intake temps drop below 90 degrees F. If I can get my intake temps down to 75 degrees by the time I hit the traps I pick up a couple of MPH.

xDicktonesx · 01-15-2007, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by bb4ever

The sterno thing is hilarious, thats good stuff

wait till someone dynos it tommorow.

lohatch · 01-15-2007, 09:05 PM

couple drops of hydrazine

LSVTEC 91 Civic · 01-15-2007, 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bb4ever

Icing the fuel line would work just as well for us as it does for domestic guys

The sterno thing is hilarious, thats good stuff

Who's down to dyno a cool-can?

lohatch · 01-15-2007, 09:37 PM

i was going to make on of those last season and try it but didnt get the chance

WHITFIELD-TUNED · 01-15-2007, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by LSVTEC 91 Civic

Who's down to dyno a cool-can?

as far as i know (could be wrong ) those cool cals were developed for carburated vehicles ( 6-10 psi fuel press)??

i look at a pic of my 4 year old son and tell myself that i am doing this to better myself for his bennifit (seriously) and then i bang the living shit out of the gears trying to break something and if i dont .. then i go fast !!!

as far as tricks to win a race MIND GAMES AT THE TREE work well on most

wascly · 01-15-2007, 10:25 PM

I always noticed in my GTI VR, I would run faster each time if I was doing consecutive runs. I would run the same time like 10 times in a row if I let the car sit between runs. Then, I did 3 consecutive runs and dropped 2 tenths each run. I made it all the way to the semi finals, and then broke out because of this.

Anthony Dowd (VW drag racer) took off all of his serpentine belts, removed his radiator and went from a 11.95 to a 11.72 in his all-motor GTI. Wasn't something he would have done all the time, so I don't think this counts

crx=si · 01-15-2007, 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LSVTEC 91 Civic

Who's down to dyno a cool-can?

I've dynoed that very same cool can and didn't make shit

, I'll try out that stuff that deftone posted tomorrow since I have 2 cars to tune (of course if my customers permit), also I've disconnected my alternator belt on my 95 stroke motor and made 6whp, it went from 272 to 278whp 6whp across the board

LSVTEC 91 Civic · 01-15-2007, 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crx=si

I've dynoed that very same cool can and didn't make shit

, I'll try out that stuff that deftone posted tomorrow since I have 2 cars to tune (of course if my customers permit), also I've disconnected my alternator belt on my 95 stroke motor and made 6whp, it went from 272 to 278whp 6whp across the board

I figured. The fuel bowl in a carburetor does sit on top of the intake manifold.. so I can see how this would help in a carbureted application. We don't have that problem, but I was just curious if the colder fuel would provide any benefit.

I guess not.

ExospeedAMcrx · 01-15-2007, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by LSVTEC 91 Civic

Who's down to dyno a cool-can?

That was tried out back in the late 90s by several people out here in SoCal from what I remember. I dont think it did much or else we'd be using them by now.

aye Chris, how about those cheesy pre-race things bunch of people used to do at the street races in like 93/94. Alternator plug thing, vacuum hose thing, and the stock fuel regulator screw adjsutments. haha.
Its funny how you'd see the dood pop his hood, turn off all his lights and run without the alternator right before a run..

WHITFIELD-TUNED · 01-16-2007, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by exospeedAMcrx

That was tried out back in the late 90s by several people out here in SoCal from what I remember. I dont think it did much or else we'd be using them by now.

aye Chris, how about those cheesy pre-race things bunch of people used to do at the street races in like 93/94. Alternator plug thing, vacuum hose thing, and the stock fuel regulator screw adjsutments. haha.
Its funny how you'd see the dood pop his hood, turn off all his lights and run without the alternator right before a run..

ya they used to pull off the fuel reg vac line so they would have "higher fuel press" hahahahah

xtercii · 01-16-2007, 03:31 AM

You spark plug could be running too cool, and after you thrash the car it reaches the normal operating temp and therefore you car becomes more responsive.

CHEETAH · 01-16-2007, 05:44 AM

forget engine power, just wax the car ... bet you'd gain .2 from that.

BERT-O · 01-16-2007, 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by CHEETAH

forget engine power, just wax the car ... bet you'd gain .2 from that.

and don't forget to armor the tires, less air-drag on the tires!!!!

ATYPR · 01-16-2007, 08:05 AM

Please don't try this at home.......Sprayed the intercooler with Methanol after the burnout and saw a 2mph gain in the 1/8th mile.

sorry I don't know any NA secrets

mgags7 · 01-16-2007, 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crx=si

I've dynoed that very same cool can and didn't make shit

, I'll try out that stuff that deftone posted tomorrow since I have 2 cars to tune (of course if my customers permit), also I've disconnected my alternator belt on my 95 stroke motor and made 6whp, it went from 272 to 278whp 6whp across the board

I think that hot fuel was way more of a problem with the domestics, modern fuel injection probably has a lot to do with the reason you didn't gain any power.

Shit its not like we have to worry about vapor locking.....

SonicRacing · 01-16-2007, 08:25 AM

turn off the ac.....

01-15-2007, 05:51 PM	#1
xDicktonesx Join Date: May 2005 Location: Hessian Aggression Posts: 6,437	Racers, post your last ditch, extra HP secrets In nascar, during qualifying they smear sterno-flame inside their intakes. the fumes form the paste is flamable and is good for a few hp. the 5 liter mustang guys put those freezer cooler cubes, the blue ones, in the bottom of their intake boxes for a few hp. i have frozen the intercooler on my brothers supra powered pickup truck jsut before a pass with a fire extinguisher. jsut spray it until icicles form during staging. what do you do right before a pass?

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xDicktonesx Join Date: May 2005 Location: Hessian Aggression Posts: 6,437	68 views and you mother****ers would rather post in the "how do i build an lsvtec?"-type threads. pssshhhhh this forum is worthless. b19guy, buy some of this shit and do it tommorow.

01-15-2007, 07:48 PM	#4
LSVTEC 91 Civic Banned Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 7,181	How would a cool-can work in an EFI application??? Always was curious about this...

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b19coupe Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Southern, California, U.S.A. Posts: 9,299	Re: Racers, post your last ditch, extra HP secrets (xDEFTONESx) I rev the shit out of the car in the burnout box until my intake temps drop below 90 degrees F. If I can get my intake temps down to 75 degrees by the time I hit the traps I pick up a couple of MPH. __________________ C.A.T.

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wascly Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: beaverton, OR, USA Posts: 186	Re: (lohatch) I always noticed in my GTI VR, I would run faster each time if I was doing consecutive runs. I would run the same time like 10 times in a row if I let the car sit between runs. Then, I did 3 consecutive runs and dropped 2 tenths each run. I made it all the way to the semi finals, and then broke out because of this. Anthony Dowd (VW drag racer) took off all of his serpentine belts, removed his radiator and went from a 11.95 to a 11.72 in his all-motor GTI. Wasn't something he would have done all the time, so I don't think this counts __________________ Dave 02 MDX,96 Integra LS/Vtec, 81 Rabbit Truck VR6, 77 Scirocco ABA "It's easier to ask for Forgiveness than Permission"

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xtercii Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 11	Re: (wascly) You spark plug could be running too cool, and after you thrash the car it reaches the normal operating temp and therefore you car becomes more responsive.

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