Thoughts on Power - Honda-Tech

mike_belben@yahoo.com · 11-16-2006, 01:44 AM

An article ive been working on. figured it could be of use to some people.
http://angeltowns.com/town/mik....html

hope to have a very long clearancing writeup done in a few weeks with enough detail for anyone to do it.

JCushing · 11-16-2006, 03:59 AM

nice, my dyno made it in there

b19coupe · 11-16-2006, 07:57 AM

Looks like somebody has been doing their homework.

RagingAngel · 11-16-2006, 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike_belben@yahoo.com

".....I'm not an engineer or mathlete...."

no kidding...you're a freaking professor...at least I got that impression when I was looking at your diagrams and charts....they look exactly like overhead projector material during my [brief] stint in physics class....

Great read in any case

mike_belben@yahoo.com · 11-16-2006, 08:59 AM

thanks guys, actually im a 3x dropout. sit in class listening to a $14/hr teacher about how to run a business, or go home and accomplish the $30+/hr jobs that are lined up for weeks.

the puzzle all finally started to come together in my head and i wanted to articulate it out on paper to really get my story straight. if you cant explain it you dont really know it.

mike_belben@yahoo.com · 11-16-2006, 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JCushing

nice, my dyno made it in there

you're my only customer who's followed through on tuning after ive gotten done with their engine. look how much power you're making on such little effort too. it kills me to know there are heads ive got 40+ hours in that i cant say a word about them because theyve never been dynoed like they were supposed to be, yours was 4 hours of grinding and a valvejob.

so anyways, i appreciate your effort jeremy!

Furyof4 · 11-16-2006, 09:33 AM

Great read! Thanks for the info.

Runnerdown · 11-16-2006, 09:45 AM

very nice writeup, looking forward to the clearancing article.

JerseySiPOS · 11-16-2006, 10:18 AM

So if my intake cam is open for .0065972294 seconds and closed for .01125992186 @ 6750 rpms, can you help me fill my 81X89 cylinders to their max potential?

I like the way you think.

Imma talk to you

mike_belben@yahoo.com · 11-16-2006, 10:39 AM

something darin morgan said that was very simple turned a light on for me. it was the idea that you cant fill a cylinder without opening the valves, and you cant build pressure without closing them.

valve events are serious business.

JCushing · 11-16-2006, 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike_belben@yahoo.com

you're my only customer who's followed through on tuning after ive gotten done with their engine. look how much power you're making on such little effort too. it kills me to know there are heads ive got 40+ hours in that i cant say a word about them because theyve never been dynoed like they were supposed to be, yours was 4 hours of grinding and a valvejob.

so anyways, i appreciate your effort jeremy!

well then port my head this spring and ill do a before and after for you.... prolly with bigger cams though

and i appreciate what you did for me too BTW.... one of these days when its not rainin im stoppin by after work...

mike_belben@yahoo.com · 11-16-2006, 07:43 PM

deal

HatchSpeeD · 11-30-2006, 11:07 PM

There you are....

mike_belben@yahoo.com · 12-01-2006, 03:32 PM

whatup keith!?

Professor15 · 12-01-2006, 11:33 PM

i always look forward to your post, very informative. keep it up...

mike_belben@yahoo.com · 12-02-2006, 12:33 PM

thanks man. i try.

Televator · 12-02-2006, 02:46 PM

Wow, that was good readin'. Hey would you mind if I (In my free time of course) redraw those diagrams on the compy? They'd look sweet next to all that info. I loves me some mechanical drafting!

mike_belben@yahoo.com · 12-02-2006, 03:16 PM

sure, knock yourself out.

11-16-2006, 01:44 AM	#1
mike_belben@yahoo.com Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: not riding any bandwagons in, massachusetts, usa Posts: 1,565	Thoughts on Power An article ive been working on. figured it could be of use to some people. http://angeltowns.com/town/mik....html hope to have a very long clearancing writeup done in a few weeks with enough detail for anyone to do it. __________________ Gone Fishin'

11-16-2006, 03:59 AM	#2
JCushing Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Suck it Trebek Posts: 3,115	Re: Thoughts on Power (mike_belben@yahoo.com) nice, my dyno made it in there __________________ 84.5mm b20, 11.5:1 cr, non-vtec P8R head with crower 404's going to go bigger FOR MORE POWER! http://images.honda-tech.com/set1/smile/emsmileo.gif http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1707713

11-16-2006, 07:57 AM	#3
b19coupe Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Southern, California, U.S.A. Posts: 9,299	Re: Thoughts on Power (mike_belben@yahoo.com) Looks like somebody has been doing their homework. __________________ C.A.T.

11-16-2006, 08:59 AM	#5
mike_belben@yahoo.com Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: not riding any bandwagons in, massachusetts, usa Posts: 1,565	thanks guys, actually im a 3x dropout. sit in class listening to a $14/hr teacher about how to run a business, or go home and accomplish the $30+/hr jobs that are lined up for weeks. the puzzle all finally started to come together in my head and i wanted to articulate it out on paper to really get my story straight. if you cant explain it you dont really know it. __________________ Gone Fishin'

11-16-2006, 09:33 AM	#7
Furyof4 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: SE, PA, usa Posts: 902	Re: Thoughts on Power (mike_belben@yahoo.com) Great read! Thanks for the info.

11-16-2006, 09:45 AM	#8
Runnerdown Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Albany, NY Posts: 2,356	Re: Thoughts on Power (mike_belben@yahoo.com) very nice writeup, looking forward to the clearancing article. __________________ http://www.synapsemotorsport.com 12.4@109 all motor street car w/stock cams. Curiosity is the mother of creativity.

11-16-2006, 10:18 AM	#9
JerseySiPOS Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: POSeRs, NJ, US Posts: 1,457	Re: Thoughts on Power (Runnerdown) So if my intake cam is open for .0065972294 seconds and closed for .01125992186 @ 6750 rpms, can you help me fill my 81X89 cylinders to their max potential? I like the way you think. Imma talk to you __________________ 00 Si d\|d P2T Honda P30/P73/PCT COM, 1797cc, 93oct. VOUCHES: ilsimsli, 91EFHatch, Bbasso, freezyfreeky, vha27, honduhh, xxxhonda20, jdmwhore, thelate1, ixislikixi, hybrid98, AMLS4dr200whp, toekneevwj, JDMFreak_DC2

11-16-2006, 10:39 AM	#10
mike_belben@yahoo.com Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: not riding any bandwagons in, massachusetts, usa Posts: 1,565	something darin morgan said that was very simple turned a light on for me. it was the idea that you cant fill a cylinder without opening the valves, and you cant build pressure without closing them. valve events are serious business. __________________ Gone Fishin'

11-16-2006, 07:43 PM	#12
mike_belben@yahoo.com Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: not riding any bandwagons in, massachusetts, usa Posts: 1,565	deal __________________ Gone Fishin'

11-30-2006, 11:07 PM	#13
HatchSpeeD Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 641	There you are.... __________________ http://www.NewEnglandHondaRebuilders.com

12-01-2006, 03:32 PM	#14
mike_belben@yahoo.com Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: not riding any bandwagons in, massachusetts, usa Posts: 1,565	whatup keith!? __________________ Gone Fishin'

12-01-2006, 11:33 PM	#15
Professor15 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Long Island, N.y, usa Posts: 2,090	i always look forward to your post, very informative. keep it up... __________________ Ya tu Sabe ent.

12-02-2006, 12:33 PM	#16
mike_belben@yahoo.com Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: not riding any bandwagons in, massachusetts, usa Posts: 1,565	thanks man. i try. __________________ Gone Fishin'

12-02-2006, 02:46 PM	#17
Televator Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Tempe/Scottsdale, AZ, USA Posts: 1,264	Re: (mike_belben@yahoo.com) Wow, that was good readin'. Hey would you mind if I (In my free time of course) redraw those diagrams on the compy? They'd look sweet next to all that info. I loves me some mechanical drafting! __________________ 無限'93 Prelude Si VTEC BB1 Black Art

12-02-2006, 03:16 PM	#18
mike_belben@yahoo.com Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: not riding any bandwagons in, massachusetts, usa Posts: 1,565	sure, knock yourself out. __________________ Gone Fishin'

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