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Bense · 06-04-2006, 09:41 AM

<FONT SIZE="5">new version here
http://honda-tech.com/zerothread/1922582
</FONT>

Okay, So this is just like all of the other sub forum indexes, but this one is for the transmissions (duh

)

I want good links in here with verified info, none of this fly by night "assumption" nonsense. With that said, I am

going to provide links for the stuff that I have found to be helpful. Yes there will be some of my writeups, but

that's just because I know of them and know where they are. This isn't a index of only my creations so please don't

interpret it as that.

Hydro d-series zc hybrid transmission explained
http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1449896

My B-series transmission page
http://bensebuilt.livejournal.com/2006/01/08

b-series cable ys1 trans vs hydro s4c trans:
http://hybrids.jp/forum/showthread.php?t=21540

b-series hydro internals in a cable ys1 case
http://www.outlawatvclub.com/u....html

my comparison between close-ratio gears and numerically higher final drives:
http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1593351

Gear calculators:
http://www.f-body.org/gears
http://www.fatboyraceworks.com/gears

my mini howto on fine tuning your gearing for optimal 1/4 mile acceleration.
http://honda-tech.com/zerothread/1702219

Calculators for 1/4-Mile ET & MPH vs. HP and Weight
http://www.stealth316.com/2-calc-hp-et-mph.htm

d-series ratios (cable and hydro)
http://www.knology.net/~jedikl...s.htm

aquafina's 1/4 mile times with different gears on a d16y7
http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1639804

my trans rebuild with infinitude gears + quaife LSD
http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1645538

D transmission vs B transmission
http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1751244

More to come and post links to other stuff too and I'll edit my post accordingly, but please don't clutter this

thread

B-series hydro ring gear swapping[/b]
you have two style of ring gears. LSD style and b16 style

the LSD style includes all of the hydro LSD ring gears including the 4.785 and the 4.4 that's found in the integras.

then you have the "b16" style. The b16 NON lsd differentials use the "smaller" style. Also the b18b integra uses

the same style, only it uses the 4.266 ring gear

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finding the gear ratios of your gears

Aquafina · 06-07-2006, 10:07 PM

Fatboy gearing calculator
http://www.fatboyraceworks.com/gears

My gearing/1/4 mile thread (updated as I go)
http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1639804

Bense · 06-07-2006, 10:47 PM

yea thanks for nothing JERK, i already updated the thread

Aquafina · 06-07-2006, 11:03 PM

If you are nice maybe I'll post pics from the autopsy of my trans...

Bense · 06-07-2006, 11:09 PM

BUMP for pics

Bense · 06-07-2006, 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bense

but please don't clutter this thread

shut up man, nobody asked you

Blown90hatcH · 06-12-2006, 06:03 PM

I have a full photo shoot from a complete tear down and rebuild on my b-series tranny. I will try and find some time to do the write up and post the pics.

Jason

Bense · 06-12-2006, 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blown90hatcH

I have a full photo shoot from a complete tear down and rebuild on my b-series tranny. I will try and find some time to do the write up and post the pics.

Jason

same here for my d-series build. As soon as i get the money, i'm gonna get a upgraded photobucket account so i can just ftp all the photos.

Aquafina · 07-09-2006, 02:31 PM

Post in the forum, not the FAQ thread.

Aquafina · 07-22-2006, 07:09 PM

Sigh.

No_Fear · 08-05-2006, 01:32 AM

any links with companys who make custom ratio for Bseries?

Bense · 08-05-2006, 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by No_Fear

any links with companys who make custom ratio for Bseries?

excellent question:

ATS Gears
http://www.a-t-s-usa.com/ats-p...shtml

quaife
http://quaifeamerica.com/gears/civic.htm
http://quaifeamerica.com/gears/hondab16dog.htm

infinitude
http://www.mfactoryhk.com/prod...Gears

try these guys for custom gears
http://kimnational.trustpass.a....html

No_Fear · 08-05-2006, 08:42 AM

thanks,i am interested for 4th gear around 1.2

exim@uu.pp121.net · 08-09-2006, 03:02 AM

Where's the pics?

No_Fear · 08-09-2006, 11:00 AM

http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1645538

buzz1167 · 08-10-2006, 09:55 PM

Bense:
How do you know which gears will go where? You said in your writeup that the 3rd->4th gear interchange wouldn't fit without some modification so you used one from a different tranny you had laying around. If I were to partake in such an adventure, is there some what to tell beforehand what gears will go where without "modification", short of buying a whole new gearset from infinitude?
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think it's becuase they are on sperate "sections" and, apparantly, the sections all feel the need to be of different diameter? So therefore, 2nd and 3rd can be easily changed, as well as 4th with 5th; but not 3rd with 4/5 or 1st with anything?

Also, are most of the transmissions similar? I.E. could I take a gearset from an F/H tranny and change it with a B, or only within the series?

Thanks and good work.

Bense · 08-13-2006, 09:45 AM

3rd and 4th gears are only swappable on d-series. like, you could use a civic vx 3rd as 4th. or if you wanted to be stupid you could use a 4th as a 3rd. But then it would be like

1 4 5
2 3 R

buzz1167 · 08-14-2006, 04:14 PM

Ok so... I'm only a little confused with the wording of your answer.

Are 2->3 / 4->5 easily swappable in all trannies?
You swap gears between the same series without a problem, just not between series, right?

I'm asking becuase I have an F series, If I could braoden my search for tranny parts it would help tremendously to me finding the right gears.

Thanks,

Craigp23usa · 08-20-2006, 11:53 AM

bense, do you know what bearing parts and synchro parts interchange on the the b series. preferably the jdm b16 y1? i cant find this anywhere. if not ill try to cross them all.

Bense · 08-20-2006, 12:08 PM

best bet is to just cross check the part numbers and read the product descriptions.

Craigp23usa · 08-20-2006, 12:10 PM

thought so. by the way that is a kick ass write up (ur first link from this page). by the way will any ls 5th gear bolt up to any b series main and counter?

06-04-2006, 09:41 AM	#1
Bense Moderator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: πmp1ng my calculator, SC Posts: 9,056	Transmission Topic Index/FAQ/GOOD LINKS/ETC. <FONT SIZE="5">new version here http://honda-tech.com/zerothread/1922582 </FONT> Okay, So this is just like all of the other sub forum indexes, but this one is for the transmissions (duh ) I want good links in here with verified info, none of this fly by night "assumption" nonsense. With that said, I am going to provide links for the stuff that I have found to be helpful. Yes there will be some of my writeups, but that's just because I know of them and know where they are. This isn't a index of only my creations so please don't interpret it as that. Hydro d-series zc hybrid transmission explained http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1449896 My B-series transmission page http://bensebuilt.livejournal.com/2006/01/08 b-series cable ys1 trans vs hydro s4c trans: http://hybrids.jp/forum/showthread.php?t=21540 b-series hydro internals in a cable ys1 case http://www.outlawatvclub.com/u....html my comparison between close-ratio gears and numerically higher final drives: http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1593351 Gear calculators: http://www.f-body.org/gears http://www.fatboyraceworks.com/gears my mini howto on fine tuning your gearing for optimal 1/4 mile acceleration. http://honda-tech.com/zerothread/1702219 Calculators for 1/4-Mile ET & MPH vs. HP and Weight http://www.stealth316.com/2-calc-hp-et-mph.htm d-series ratios (cable and hydro) http://www.knology.net/~jedikl...s.htm aquafina's 1/4 mile times with different gears on a d16y7 http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1639804 my trans rebuild with infinitude gears + quaife LSD http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1645538 D transmission vs B transmission http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1751244 More to come and post links to other stuff too and I'll edit my post accordingly, but please don't clutter this thread B-series hydro ring gear swapping[/b] you have two style of ring gears. LSD style and b16 style the LSD style includes all of the hydro LSD ring gears including the 4.785 and the 4.4 that's found in the integras. then you have the "b16" style. The b16 NON lsd differentials use the "smaller" style. Also the b18b integra uses the same style, only it uses the 4.266 ring gear ################################################## ##### finding the gear ratios of your gears __________________ Calculus 3\| Engineering Statics (Statics, NOT statistics.) \| Physics w/ Calculus F2D/H2D kit, MFactory 3/5 D gears http://honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2378468

06-07-2006, 10:07 PM	#2
Aquafina Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Johnson City TN Posts: 8,562	Re: Transmission Topic Index/FAQ/GOOD LINKS/ETC. (Bense) Fatboy gearing calculator http://www.fatboyraceworks.com/gears My gearing/1/4 mile thread (updated as I go) http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1639804 __________________ Whoopee Doo Racing: MFactory, Rocket Motorsports, Action Clutch, CP Pistons, Supertech, ACL.////ITR Expo Sponsor 2006-2008, Big Tuna Motorsports Sponsor 2008.////MFactory North American Installer

06-07-2006, 10:47 PM	#3
Bense Moderator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: πmp1ng my calculator, SC Posts: 9,056	Re: Transmission Topic Index/FAQ/GOOD LINKS/ETC. (Aquafina) yea thanks for nothing JERK, i already updated the thread __________________ Calculus 3\| Engineering Statics (Statics, NOT statistics.) \| Physics w/ Calculus F2D/H2D kit, MFactory 3/5 D gears http://honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2378468

06-07-2006, 11:03 PM	#4
Aquafina Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Johnson City TN Posts: 8,562	Re: Transmission Topic Index/FAQ/GOOD LINKS/ETC. (Bense) If you are nice maybe I'll post pics from the autopsy of my trans... __________________ Whoopee Doo Racing: MFactory, Rocket Motorsports, Action Clutch, CP Pistons, Supertech, ACL.////ITR Expo Sponsor 2006-2008, Big Tuna Motorsports Sponsor 2008.////MFactory North American Installer

06-07-2006, 11:09 PM	#5
Bense Moderator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: πmp1ng my calculator, SC Posts: 9,056	Re: Transmission Topic Index/FAQ/GOOD LINKS/ETC. (Aquafina) BUMP for pics __________________ Calculus 3\| Engineering Statics (Statics, NOT statistics.) \| Physics w/ Calculus F2D/H2D kit, MFactory 3/5 D gears http://honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2378468

06-12-2006, 06:03 PM	#7
Blown90hatcH Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Tranny Killing, Ohio Snow, USA Posts: 98,161	Re: Transmission Topic Index/FAQ/GOOD LINKS/ETC. (Bense) I have a full photo shoot from a complete tear down and rebuild on my b-series tranny. I will try and find some time to do the write up and post the pics. Jason __________________ JESUS Saves www.JKOBD.com 10.10@149 tranny killer http://www.tampamike.org http://www.T1Racedevelopment.com http://www.rywire.com http://www.full-race.com

07-09-2006, 02:31 PM	#9
Aquafina Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Johnson City TN Posts: 8,562	Re: 2006 crv obdII info (edbdfc) Post in the forum, not the FAQ thread. __________________ Whoopee Doo Racing: MFactory, Rocket Motorsports, Action Clutch, CP Pistons, Supertech, ACL.////ITR Expo Sponsor 2006-2008, Big Tuna Motorsports Sponsor 2008.////MFactory North American Installer

07-22-2006, 07:09 PM	#10
Aquafina Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Johnson City TN Posts: 8,562	Re: Transmission Topic Index/FAQ/GOOD LINKS/ETC. (edie garay) Sigh. __________________ Whoopee Doo Racing: MFactory, Rocket Motorsports, Action Clutch, CP Pistons, Supertech, ACL.////ITR Expo Sponsor 2006-2008, Big Tuna Motorsports Sponsor 2008.////MFactory North American Installer

08-05-2006, 01:32 AM	#11
No_Fear Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: CYPRUS Posts: 370	any links with companys who make custom ratio for Bseries? __________________ Face your fears, Live your dreams. http://www.nof3ar.cjb.net EK9 Powerd by www.xmotorsport.net www.cusco.gr

08-05-2006, 08:42 AM	#13
No_Fear Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: CYPRUS Posts: 370	thanks,i am interested for 4th gear around 1.2 __________________ Face your fears, Live your dreams. http://www.nof3ar.cjb.net EK9 Powerd by www.xmotorsport.net www.cusco.gr

08-09-2006, 03:02 AM	#14
exim@uu.pp121.net Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: asdfasdsfad, asffasd, china Posts: 26	Re: (No_Fear) Where's the pics?

08-09-2006, 11:00 AM	#15
No_Fear Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: CYPRUS Posts: 370	http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1645538 __________________ Face your fears, Live your dreams. http://www.nof3ar.cjb.net EK9 Powerd by www.xmotorsport.net www.cusco.gr

08-10-2006, 09:55 PM	#16
buzz1167 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Leavenworth, KS Posts: 26	Re: (No_Fear) Bense: How do you know which gears will go where? You said in your writeup that the 3rd->4th gear interchange wouldn't fit without some modification so you used one from a different tranny you had laying around. If I were to partake in such an adventure, is there some what to tell beforehand what gears will go where without "modification", short of buying a whole new gearset from infinitude? Correct me if I'm wrong but I think it's becuase they are on sperate "sections" and, apparantly, the sections all feel the need to be of different diameter? So therefore, 2nd and 3rd can be easily changed, as well as 4th with 5th; but not 3rd with 4/5 or 1st with anything? Also, are most of the transmissions similar? I.E. could I take a gearset from an F/H tranny and change it with a B, or only within the series? Thanks and good work. __________________ Daily Driver - Honda CR-V - Custom CAI - 440cc injectors - Apexi VAFC Custom Car: Fiberglass Frame W/some steel reinforcement -- Inspired by '90 Jaguar Lemans F22a1 Stock W/5spd in a mid-engine setup

08-13-2006, 09:45 AM	#17
Bense Moderator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: πmp1ng my calculator, SC Posts: 9,056	Re: (buzz1167) 3rd and 4th gears are only swappable on d-series. like, you could use a civic vx 3rd as 4th. or if you wanted to be stupid you could use a 4th as a 3rd. But then it would be like 1 4 5 2 3 R __________________ Calculus 3\| Engineering Statics (Statics, NOT statistics.) \| Physics w/ Calculus F2D/H2D kit, MFactory 3/5 D gears http://honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2378468

08-14-2006, 04:14 PM	#18
buzz1167 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Leavenworth, KS Posts: 26	Re: (Bense) Ok so... I'm only a little confused with the wording of your answer. Are 2->3 / 4->5 easily swappable in all trannies? You swap gears between the same series without a problem, just not between series, right? I'm asking becuase I have an F series, If I could braoden my search for tranny parts it would help tremendously to me finding the right gears. Thanks, __________________ Daily Driver - Honda CR-V - Custom CAI - 440cc injectors - Apexi VAFC Custom Car: Fiberglass Frame W/some steel reinforcement -- Inspired by '90 Jaguar Lemans F22a1 Stock W/5spd in a mid-engine setup

08-20-2006, 11:53 AM	#19
Craigp23usa Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: East Hampton, CT, USA Posts: 431	bense, do you know what bearing parts and synchro parts interchange on the the b series. preferably the jdm b16 y1? i cant find this anywhere. if not ill try to cross them all. __________________ Check out the Project: http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1427093

08-20-2006, 12:08 PM	#20
Bense Moderator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: πmp1ng my calculator, SC Posts: 9,056	Re: (Craigp23usa) best bet is to just cross check the part numbers and read the product descriptions. __________________ Calculus 3\| Engineering Statics (Statics, NOT statistics.) \| Physics w/ Calculus F2D/H2D kit, MFactory 3/5 D gears http://honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2378468

08-20-2006, 12:10 PM	#21
Craigp23usa Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: East Hampton, CT, USA Posts: 431	thought so. by the way that is a kick ass write up (ur first link from this page). by the way will any ls 5th gear bolt up to any b series main and counter? __________________ Check out the Project: http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1427093

08-21-2006, 01:07 AM	#22
exim@uu.pp121.net Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: asdfasdsfad, asffasd, china Posts: 26