K20 swaps? Carb/Smog legal? - Honda-Tech

comma · 05-23-2006, 10:01 PM

For those with K20 swaps, are you guys getting that BAR(?) certification with it to make it smog legal? And how much should I expect to pay for a K20 swap at a reputable shop (So.cal)?

civic05k20 · 05-24-2006, 12:24 AM

mines not smog legal, cuz i have an 03 k20a type r motor in an 05 coupe.. i paid a lot for my engine.. but i had some friends only charge me 700 to do the swap. so i would think a reputable shop would probably charge u around 1000-1200 to do it. I am trying to find an 05 k24 (tsx) motor that someone would like to trade me.

sdcivic549 · 05-24-2006, 08:40 PM

Yes it can be smog legal if you get an engine that was originally sold in the USDM. CARB has a repair exemption wavier that you can get. K20a won't get past smog etc, but an a2 or k24 will.

brjhnson · 05-24-2006, 09:14 PM

I live in texas and around here a full swap with labor and tunning will run you about 7000, But this is by a shop that is considered one of the best in texas.

aznboysrfr · 05-25-2006, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by sdcivic549

Yes it can be smog legal if you get an engine that was originally sold in the USDM. CARB has a repair exemption wavier that you can get. K20a won't get past smog etc, but an a2 or k24 will.

the K20A should pass smog.

the K24 will not.

devani · 05-26-2006, 06:57 AM

The engine must be of same year or newer than chassis...

nomotor · 08-19-2006, 10:12 PM

bump

Vantage · 08-19-2006, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by aznboysrfr

the K20A should pass smog.

the K24 will not.

why would a K24 now pass?
its from a TSX/Accord

THe CRV/Element K24's shouldnt, as they are truck/suv motors, but the other's are fine.

toyomatt84 · 08-20-2006, 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by B18a_CRX

why would a K24 now pass?
its from a TSX/Accord

THe CRV/Element K24's shouldnt, as they are truck/suv motors, but the other's are fine.

I've seen K24's pass smog, so I know it can be done.

TEST ONLY · 08-22-2006, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by aznboysrfr

The K20 should pass smog, the K24 will not!

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Originally Posted by B18a_CRX

The CRV/Element K24's shouldnt pass smog, as they are truck/suv motors.

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Originally Posted by toyomatt84

I've seen K24's pass smog, so I know it can be done.

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Originally Posted by wed3k

thats when my next smog check is....in December 2007

So, you got some time to not even worry about it....

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Originally Posted by wed3k

but a couple hundred bucks should buy enough beer...

Yes, that usually does help.

But, the best way to pass a vehicle is the LEGAL way, we smog K20, B20 and H22 swaps everyday. We're in 2006 now, no more shortcuts. We actually convert the vehicles to CNG/LPG, certify them with the state as flexfuel/CNG, exempt the smogs indefinitely, then uninstall the CNG/LPG conversion kits.

Forget cutting corners, why pay for a crooked smog every 2 years? if you do it right the first time, you won't have to watch your back or stress out about getting referee tickets, or even worry about any future smogs.....

-Jay Garrett- [b]hazw8st

shevlin · 08-25-2006, 12:39 AM

or you could just move to kansas, a friend of mine had an old mr2 that had to be "inspected" because it hadent been regestered in years (came out of a junk yard) but all the guy did was look at the lights and ask if it had a 4 cylinder in it still, didnt even ask to open the hood, i love this shity state

toyomatt84 · 08-25-2006, 08:01 AM

I can do you one better, shevlin, if you live in Wisconsin you can register a vehicle for use up North, and you won't need to take it to get tested or inspected ever.

sauceja · 08-25-2006, 10:09 AM

New mexico They check vin against title. Thats it. No smog or emissions EVER.
And that is only a check when you buy an out of state car. If you buy an in state they open the door make sure same car as the title says.

I love this state but that is only reason why.

theciv · 08-25-2006, 10:15 AM

i hate texas.

damn texas bitches.

wbshrk16 · 08-26-2006, 09:08 PM

Florida doesn't do anything. Yay!

ALL MOTOR EM2 · 08-27-2006, 02:47 AM

I stil cant clear my CEL Codes on my K-pro and therefore cant pass emissions.

George Knighton · 08-27-2006, 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by civic05k20

mines not smog legal, cuz i have an 03 k20a type r motor in an 05 coupe...

This motor will get through emissions testing in Northern Virginia if the installer and tuner know that it's what you will need to be doing. You're only going to lose a few HP...but they need to know that you have to pass emissions when the work is being done the first time, and they need to have a full understanding of the state inspection requirements for your locality.

I have no idea if this would work in the original poster's part of the world, but I wanted to point out that it is not necessarily automatically going to be out of the question.

DB8Rracer · 09-05-2006, 06:30 PM

sup man you said you can smog K20's? Can you give me some info like where are you located and how I can get one? Mine is due pretty soon. thanks

DB8Rracer · 09-05-2006, 06:32 PM

I need to get mine smogged legally...someone contact me with more info, thanks

TEST ONLY · 09-08-2006, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by DB8Rracer

I need to get mine smogged legally...someone contact me with more info, thanks

fventura03 · 09-08-2006, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by hazw8st

TEST ONLY · 09-11-2006, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DB8Rracer

I need to get mine smogged legally...someone contact me with more info, thanks

Anybody wanna hook up a noob?

turbopolluter · 11-27-2006, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by toyomatt84

I've seen K24's pass smog, so I know it can be done.

Bump, need smogging info.

Miracle · 11-27-2006, 06:55 PM

As long as the motor you are putting in the car, is out of the same year, or newer, you won't have a problem if the motor is as it came from the factory.

05-23-2006, 10:01 PM	#1
comma Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: aaeskl, cas Posts: 202	K20 swaps? Carb/Smog legal? For those with K20 swaps, are you guys getting that BAR(?) certification with it to make it smog legal? And how much should I expect to pay for a K20 swap at a reputable shop (So.cal)?

05-24-2006, 12:24 AM	#2
civic05k20 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Reppin 805 Posts: 20	Re: K20 swaps? Carb/Smog legal? (comma) mines not smog legal, cuz i have an 03 k20a type r motor in an 05 coupe.. i paid a lot for my engine.. but i had some friends only charge me 700 to do the swap. so i would think a reputable shop would probably charge u around 1000-1200 to do it. I am trying to find an 05 k24 (tsx) motor that someone would like to trade me.

05-24-2006, 09:14 PM	#4
brjhnson 71.164.153.48 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Lewisvill, Texas, United States Posts: 847	Re: (sdcivic549) I live in texas and around here a full swap with labor and tunning will run you about 7000, But this is by a shop that is considered one of the best in texas.

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05-24-2006, 08:40 PM	#3
sdcivic549 Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 158	Yes it can be smog legal if you get an engine that was originally sold in the USDM. CARB has a repair exemption wavier that you can get. K20a won't get past smog etc, but an a2 or k24 will.

08-25-2006, 12:39 AM	#11
shevlin Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: hutchinson, Kansas, USA Posts: 87	Re: (hazw8st) or you could just move to kansas, a friend of mine had an old mr2 that had to be "inspected" because it hadent been regestered in years (came out of a junk yard) but all the guy did was look at the lights and ask if it had a 4 cylinder in it still, didnt even ask to open the hood, i love this shity state

08-25-2006, 08:01 AM	#12
toyomatt84 Moderator Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: ALL BLUE Posts: 12,462	I can do you one better, shevlin, if you live in Wisconsin you can register a vehicle for use up North, and you won't need to take it to get tested or inspected ever. __________________ *free hugs* Support Independent Artists!

08-25-2006, 10:09 AM	#13
sauceja Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: under a cactus, NM, USA Posts: 3,507	Re: (toyomatt84) New mexico They check vin against title. Thats it. No smog or emissions EVER. And that is only a check when you buy an out of state car. If you buy an in state they open the door make sure same car as the title says. I love this state but that is only reason why. __________________ My Build H2B EG Running

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wbshrk16 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Jacksonville, Florida Posts: 5	Re: (theciv) Florida doesn't do anything. Yay!

08-27-2006, 02:47 AM	#16
ALL MOTOR EM2 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Where Theives Are at, USA Posts: 451	I stil cant clear my CEL Codes on my K-pro and therefore cant pass emissions. __________________ 2002 Civic EX Coupe With a Damn Identity Crisis

09-05-2006, 06:30 PM	#18
DB8Rracer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Oakland, Ca, US Posts: 17	Re: (shevlin) sup man you said you can smog K20's? Can you give me some info like where are you located and how I can get one? Mine is due pretty soon. thanks

09-05-2006, 06:32 PM	#19
DB8Rracer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Oakland, Ca, US Posts: 17	Who knows how to smog a K20A legally? I need to get mine smogged legally...someone contact me with more info, thanks

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