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Old 03-13-2009, 11:13 AM
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I've had my dynasty 200 for about 7-8 months now but I have not been welding nearly that long. I took a class at my community college for about 2 weeks and then decided I would just do it at home when I got the welder. I have not had many projects to practice on other than a little exhaust work, my welding table and my intercooler before this. I just sold my turbo and manifold because I want to to build one so I then had no choice but to take the challenge. My plan was to copy the full-race top mount design!

Collector. I actually pick this up from SLS because I spent at least 6 hours practicing on pvc pipe and I had no luck LOL!




First runner done and starting on the second. See my retarded jig! I eyeballed the location and just went with it.




Second runner done. One piece did not line up at that well.


A test fit in the car although it would have been a little too late if it did not fit since I had a few hours on it already. Looked good so far!



Back on out and finished the 3rd runner. I was pretty damn impressed how good it was looking now!




Turbo sitting on top...





I picked up another tank of gas and started and finished the last runner last night. I did not break any of the runners off to weld them up. I should have because some areas specially around the collector were such a pain.



and I started on the head flange too!


I went to home depot and bought a hole saw for the wastegate elbow so I'll be working on that tonight and I will start on the downpipe. Wish me luck! LOL

What do you guys think?

PS- I also realized that I am a lot more steady with the torch on my left hand. I can feed the filler more comfortably with my right hand, maybe because I am right handed, LOL

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Old 03-13-2009, 11:20 AM
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very nice good work
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this is ****ing awsome. would you be willing to make another pair for a good price
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looks good
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PS- I also realized that I am a lot more steady with the torch on my left hand. I can feed the filler more comfortably with my right hand, maybe because I am right handed, LOL
I tried that once and "fed" the torch and filler at the same time, shocked myself pretty good.

Looks damn good man!
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I tried that once and "fed" the torch and filler at the same time, shocked myself pretty good.

Looks damn good man!
Hahaha! I had to use my left hand on some areas and it felt so good feeding the rod with my right hand!

Thanks!
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looks really good for your first one. I'm ambidextrious and I cannot for the life of me feed filler right handed. Fusion welding left handed? hell yeah I can do that just as good with either hand. Put a piece of filler in my right hand and my god it's like time traveling back to when I first started welding lol. Bugs the hell out of me.
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Nice work and hats off to you! I'm doing my first one this week also when the flanges land with me.
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that looks great
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looks really good for your first one. I'm ambidextrious and I cannot for the life of me feed filler right handed. Fusion welding left handed? hell yeah I can do that just as good with either hand. Put a piece of filler in my right hand and my god it's like time traveling back to when I first started welding lol. Bugs the hell out of me.
I am going to try fusing something with my left but actually I dont think I can do it. LOL I think I need my right hand doing something!

Thank you all for the compliments!
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Update!! Lot more pics! Enjoy!

I picked up a hole saw and got the wastegate done.




I then threw it in the car to mock up the downpipe to mate with my exhaust.




Took it back out and put it on the mock up motor to start on the dump tube.





Dump tube done!






And here it all is in the car! I am so excited! I pat myself on the shoulder! LOL




Now I have to do the hot side charge pipe. I should be cake though!
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very nice job man! i really like the set up. so how long have you been tig welding for?
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very nice job man! i really like the set up. so how long have you been tig welding for?
Thanks!

I'd say I have less than 40 hours of actual welding time. I'll check the hours on my machine and see.
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nice job..very nice job for the first one. I'm on my third manifold now, all it takes is time and practice, which I never have enough of!!
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looks badass! good job on keeping the downpipe from overlapping the radiator.
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nice job..very nice job for the first one. I'm on my third manifold now, all it takes is time and practice, which I never have enough of!!
Thanks! Now that I am done I know I can do it a little quicker and with practice definately even more quick. I cut everything with a chop saw because the blade on my HF bandsaw broke on the second cut into it. All the deburring, wire wheeling, and beveling took forever though! LOL but it does pay off in the end.
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Definitely kind of an unorthodox method of building the manifold, but it worked out for the mostpart. You've learned alot from the first, and that'll translate to any others if you build more.

Jigs are a big part of being successfull, and they are certainly better ways to build the mani versus how you did it. You don't really want to weld up runners prior to building others, especially on tight fitting or more complex designs.

You want to establish a strong jig, mock up the entire mani, then disassemble and weld certain runners at a time to allow yourself the most torch room and access to the collector.

Lastly, the best advice I can give you after your first manifold, is don't decide to start a business making Honda manifolds.
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Definitely kind of an unorthodox method of building the manifold, but it worked out for the mostpart. You've learned alot from the first, and that'll translate to any others if you build more.

Jigs are a big part of being successfull, and they are certainly better ways to build the mani versus how you did it. You don't really want to weld up runners prior to building others, especially on tight fitting or more complex designs.

You want to establish a strong jig, mock up the entire mani, then disassemble and weld certain runners at a time to allow yourself the most torch room and access to the collector.

Lastly, the best advice I can give you after your first manifold, is don't decide to start a business making Honda manifolds.
Thanks RC000E. I knew I should have welded up the runners separately after I started welding the second one. I started off that way because I did not spend much time on my "jig" so I was relying on that first runner to hold everything in place and get me going. I also did not know how to grind it off the tacks without hacking up the surrounding pipe. Any pointers? Maybe a dremel with a cut-off wheel?
I dont plan on making this manifold again but I now realize that the jig is what keeps everything together. I dont plan on making this a business but if I do I definately will not be honda specific! LOL I read a lot on hear from you and others that there is no money making honda manifolds!
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looks good for a first manifold
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looks great. your a natural!
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Yeah, absolutely on the dremel. I construct and tack runners in a location I can reach with a dremel and cutoff and remove tacks when needed. Once mocked up, you can remove whatever runners you want and weld them in place (except for the head and collector joint) then remove them when cool. Insert others, weld, remove, etc. IF your jig is strong, you can reassemble and weld to the head flange and collector in the order that's easiest. The jig must be strong though to avoid issues.
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amazing job for such little time on the tig machine !

only part i didnt like, was your front bumper sitting on the roof of your ride
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Looks good, but you didn't bolt your flange up while welding it.

It looks to be pretty warped.
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What settings did you use on your dynasty? Where did you get all your tubing and flange from?
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Yeah, absolutely on the dremel. I construct and tack runners in a location I can reach with a dremel and cutoff and remove tacks when needed. Once mocked up, you can remove whatever runners you want and weld them in place (except for the head and collector joint) then remove them when cool. Insert others, weld, remove, etc. IF your jig is strong, you can reassemble and weld to the head flange and collector in the order that's easiest. The jig must be strong though to avoid issues.
That is what I figured you were using! I will definately take my time on the jig next time. Thanks for the tips!

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amazing job for such little time on the tig machine !

only part i didnt like, was your front bumper sitting on the roof of your ride
LOL! I had no choice! My garage has been a mess since I started and I kept tripping over it so I just got fed up and threw it up there!

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Looks good, but you didn't bolt your flange up while welding it.

It looks to be pretty warped.
What flange are you talking about? The head is not bolted to the block so I took it off the stand and welded the head flange on my welding table. The flange was bolted to the head. The turbo flange looks warped in the first pics because the bolts I was using were too long and that is as far as they would go so the turbo would just lean towards the motor. I took a straight edge to both and they are good!

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What settings did you use on your dynasty? Where did you get all your tubing and flange from?
I had my amperage set around 130 pretty much the whole time but I almost never had the pedal maxed out. I got the pipe and tubing from acestainless, turbo and head flange from SLS and all the other flanges from ATP. ATP is 5 mins from my house!


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