91ed9

Welll so its Flux/Mig welding i dont have gas yet, so anyways


Lets say i tac something in, now when i go to weld a bead around, as soon as i start to weld it like flashes and then the wire like gets stuck inside the tip and then doesnt come out . I have to take off the tip and then cut the wire, then put the tip back on

what can this be i know the ground wire is good metal to metal contact and the welding area is cleaned good also do you think it could be the wire?

the welder is from harbor freight {its a Chicago Welder, 170 amp 230V }

thanks
-John

Bailhatch

add more wire speed maybe

m R g S r

is the tip far enough away from the workpiece? sounds like you have it right on the work. . . .

Syner-G-Racing LLC

it sounds like your leading to much wire out of the tip. you should have 1/8- 1/4" of wire no more unless your just $h!t out of luck on getting the nozzle close enough to welding properly.

other than that, how thick is the metal your welding and whats your current setting?

91ed9

well i usually have the wire about 1/4" away from the tip. The material was i think 1/8 thick about, wire speed is around 4 and the heat setting is about 5 out of (1-6)
im not to sure about the wire thickness i think its .30"

i mean once it getts going to welder works very well but alot of the time it just doesnt want to start welding it will either flash and then get stuck or it will just like sputter ( or like jump)<- im talking about the arc

-john

Syner-G-Racing LLC

dont know man. if the tip isnt wallowed out...

I would say turn it up to 6 and turn the speed down to 3.5-4 and see if it works any better if not...?

how is it setup? when you run innershield the work cable should be positive and the wire block should be negative. That would posibly be your problem.

91ed9

maybe i have the polarity wrong on the wires, bc the welder is interchangeable gas or non gas


ill check when i get home from work tomorrow

any more input from people are welcome please

97EKRADKEN

You should turn the heat up on the welder?

91ed9

^ is that a question or a statement?

do you guys think that the flux wire could be f-ed? maybe it will weld better with gas argon/co2

-john

XLR8 GS-R

170 amps and 220volt its not a crappy welder. You said your max heat setting is 6 and your running 5 turn the heat down to 3 for 1/8" but keep the speed at 4 (if the range is 1-10 for wire speed?) That welder can probobly do 1/4" no problem. Usually when you get wire burn back your tip is touching the work piece and the tension setting (or drive rolls size) on your wire feeder is way to tight. Let some wire out of the gun and hold it close to the tip with a pair of pliers. Loosen the wire feed **** untill the wire slips (dosent come out of gun) instead of pushing your pliers away. Stick with flux core till you know how to weld. Gas is just another thing to worry about

XLR8 GS-R

oh make sure your drive roll wire diameter- your wire and your tip are for the same size. Liners and tips can run 1 size bigger no probs

Syner-G-Racing LLC

Gas isnt a worry...set it to 32 cfm, (my bad 32 scfh) and go to town...its way easier to weld with gas than with out it. I recommend learning to stick and innershield then move up to gas...but it realy doesnt matter your learn either way.


Modified by Syner-G-Racing LLC at 11:33 AM 12/8/2007

DaveF

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are you serious with that? 32cfm ?? ive never used my gas at that rate.

91ed9

i dont have gas yet, i need to buy a tank and then find a place in the area to filler up.


but maybe the wire feed is to tight. and the tip and wire are the same size im pritty sure bc i know i gott 2 different size tips and i made sure they were the right size... im off tomorrow so i will check everything out with the wlder ( you dont htink the ground could be a problem i mean i wire wheeled everythign i was welding and where i put the ground clamp, im not sure .... is there another way to get the welding area cleaned so i coulkd get better penitration

thanks for the help guys,
anymore imput will be appreciated

-John

Syner-G-Racing LLC

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are you serious with that? 32cfm ?? ive never used my gas at that rate. </TD></TR></TABLE>

absolutely! I do all my welding outside, or with an open bay door. 32 scfh

as far as finding gas look up airgas, air liquide you can buy the bottle from them or rent it for like 15 cents a day. its about $230-250 for blueshield or argon w/ a 60 scf bottle.


Modified by Syner-G-Racing LLC at 11:32 AM 12/8/2007


Modified by Syner-G-Racing LLC at 11:44 AM 12/9/2007

91ed9

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Syner-G-Racing LLC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> its about $230-250 for blueshield or argon w/ a 60 scfm bottle.</TD></TR></TABLE>

for a 60scfm bottle filled?

bc i could get an empty one for like 100 but id have to find a place to fill it

Syner-G-Racing LLC

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for a 60scfm bottle filled?

bc i could get an empty one for like 100 but id have to find a place to fill it</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah filled, you could buy your own bottle but you have to pay for the bottle to get inspected and stickered which after everything it will be pretty close to what they charge...if your lazy and dont feel like jumping through hoops just buy from the supplier. just look up airgas, gaspro, or air liquide....if you still cant find a supplier go to the nearest restaurant or hospital and ask someone where they get their co2.

it looks like all the suppliers for your area are in NJ

91ed9

yeha which sucks i dont want to drive all the way to NJ just to get some argon

Syner-G-Racing LLC

so you never said if it was wired up for innershield or not...

91ed9

oo yeah im sorry , tis wired up correctly for the innershield which i am using fluxed core wire

91ed9

FIXED! well someone said that the wire feed was to be adjusted well i tried that and nothing, but then i was like what about the bolt holding on the wire ROLL well thats what it was the wire roll was to tight loosed it up and its coming out ALOT faster and it doesnt sound like the motor is struggling!!!!!

and I GOT GAS haha i found a local welding shop not far that i never knew wat there and i bought a 60 scfm tank and i think the gas is like 25 bucks to refill

cash was 170 filled! but i need a fitting to put the hose on from the regulator to the tank and no one HAS it. idont know why i went to homedepot , a local hardware store , the only place i didnt go was a plumbing store...... they were closed