Notices

Hydraulic pipe expander?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 03-05-2006, 02:26 PM
  #1  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
danielm3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Pacoima, CA
Posts: 567
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Hydraulic pipe expander?

I am looking for just the expander, not the whole pipe bending machine that comes with one. I am sure someone out there must have made one, having a real hard time finding one... any one know if there is one out there?
Old 03-05-2006, 02:39 PM
  #2  
Honda-Tech Member
 
Race Egr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: insanity
Posts: 3,039
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default Re: Hydraulic pipe expander? (danielm3)

there not cheap i know that
Old 03-05-2006, 02:44 PM
  #3  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
danielm3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Pacoima, CA
Posts: 567
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Hydraulic pipe expander? (NAPIER)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NAPIER &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">there not cheap i know that</TD></TR></TABLE>

But they do make them?
Old 03-05-2006, 03:03 PM
  #4  
Honda-Tech Member
 
00Evan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Plover, WI, USA
Posts: 444
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Depending on what you need it for this might work

http://www.harborfreight.com/c...37353
Old 03-05-2006, 03:08 PM
  #5  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
danielm3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Pacoima, CA
Posts: 567
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (00Evan)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 00Evan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Depending on what you need it for this might work

http://www.harborfreight.com/c...37353</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah I was hopeing those would work, but it couldn't even expand 18 guage piping **** broke in 2 seconds.
Old 03-05-2006, 03:11 PM
  #6  
Honda-Tech Member
 
00Evan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Plover, WI, USA
Posts: 444
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (danielm3)

Maybe try heating the pipe with a torch before using those.

Old 03-05-2006, 03:16 PM
  #7  
Honda-Tech Member
 
Race Egr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: insanity
Posts: 3,039
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default Re: (danielm3)

go to southern-tool.com they sell them ,but there like 3k
Old 03-05-2006, 03:17 PM
  #8  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
danielm3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Pacoima, CA
Posts: 567
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (00Evan)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 00Evan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Maybe try heating the pipe with a torch before using those.

</TD></TR></TABLE>

That’s a very good idea, but the expander in the link above, is held together with heavy duty rubber bands basically, I would think those would melt and the metal things will just fall.

But that would probably work.



Modified by danielm3 at 4:31 PM 3/5/2006
Old 03-05-2006, 03:22 PM
  #9  
Honda-Tech Member
 
00Evan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Plover, WI, USA
Posts: 444
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (danielm3)

I'm sure it doesn't affect the usage if the bands melt, you'll just have to reposition every part by hand when you take the flare tool out because it won't stay together when not in a pipe. Once its in the pipe it doesn't matter if the bands melt. Just get yourself a bag of rubber bands for like 50 cents and replace the bands between each pipe you flare.

Old 03-05-2006, 03:28 PM
  #10  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
danielm3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Pacoima, CA
Posts: 567
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (NAPIER)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NAPIER &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">go to southern-tool.com they sell them ,but there like 3k</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thanks dude, this will work great http://www.southern-tool.com/s...13935

!!!
Old 03-05-2006, 04:00 PM
  #11  
Honda-Tech Member
 
Race Egr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: insanity
Posts: 3,039
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default Re: (danielm3)

I wonder how good that thing will work.
Old 03-05-2006, 07:08 PM
  #12  
Honda-Tech Member
 
KFMRC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Cream Ridge, NJ
Posts: 371
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

ben pearson and a couple of others make a hydraulic unit that can be used with a hand or air over hydraulic pump
The orings that hold the segments together are not a problem and don't melt I have one of these and will get a number for the manufacturer in the am
Old 03-15-2006, 11:55 AM
  #13  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
danielm3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Pacoima, CA
Posts: 567
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (KFMRC)

I finally received the expander today. I ended up getting this one http://www.southern-tool.com/s...13936 best money I ever spent! Works perfect.


the pedal:


the expander gun:


all the sizes it can do:


some pipes:



Old 03-15-2006, 03:28 PM
  #14  
Honda-Tech Member
 
Lamchop0000's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: ca
Posts: 1,632
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (danielm3)

that is pretty nice. did that really cost about 1k?
Old 03-15-2006, 03:44 PM
  #15  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
danielm3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Pacoima, CA
Posts: 567
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (Lam.N)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Lam.N &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">that is pretty nice. did that really cost about 1k?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah it was and this was the cheapest place I found http://automotivetools.com/cgi...97409came out to 1k shipped.

Daniel
Old 03-15-2006, 04:05 PM
  #16  
Honda-Tech Member
 
jon volk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Milford, CT, USA
Posts: 272
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (danielm3)

Thats pretty sweet. I may have to invest in one soon.
Old 03-15-2006, 05:31 PM
  #17  
 
stealth-wrx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Lake Forest, Ca, USA
Posts: 20
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Holy crap. So it comes with the dies? or do you have to buy them separate?
Old 03-15-2006, 06:02 PM
  #18  
Honda-Tech Member
 
Race Egr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: insanity
Posts: 3,039
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default Re: (danielm3)

does it say anything about how thick of tubing u can use this thing on. how thick was the stuff you were using
Old 03-15-2006, 06:22 PM
  #19  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
danielm3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Pacoima, CA
Posts: 567
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (stealth-wrx)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by stealth-wrx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Holy crap. So it comes with the dies? or do you have to buy them separate?</TD></TR></TABLE>

It comes with 3 dies to do a lot of the sizes between 1 1/2" up to 2 1/2" they sell dies to be able to do 2 1/2" 3 1/2" separately.
Old 03-15-2006, 06:22 PM
  #20  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
danielm3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Pacoima, CA
Posts: 567
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (NAPIER)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NAPIER &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">does it say anything about how thick of tubing u can use this thing on. how thick was the stuff you were using</TD></TR></TABLE>

I used it on 18 and 16 gauge without a problem.
Old 09-13-2007, 02:27 PM
  #21  
Honda-Tech Member
 
DESTROYER's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: MESA, AZ, USA
Posts: 622
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (danielm3)

Daniel I'm sure you assumed I was going to resurrect this thread...

After talking to you on the phone, I went out to a few muffler shops, they looked at my ss tubing 16ga, and told me they wouldnt expand it. They then gave me a few examples of some broken tooling they had. I then went to another shop, they stuck it in, lubed it up, flipped the lever and CRRRAAAAACK! Their die just busted.

I am honestly considering getting the air unit due to cost, now was it really that bad?
Old 09-13-2007, 06:17 PM
  #22  
Honda-Tech Member
 
.RTErnie's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: BeLlInGhAm, Wa
Posts: 3,599
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (DESTROYER)

dope setup. Ive been looking for one of these for a while. Tho' I think it will be one of my later purchases.

btw great prices on stainless!!!
Old 09-13-2007, 08:31 PM
  #23  
Honda-Tech Member
 
DESTROYER's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: MESA, AZ, USA
Posts: 622
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

freaking awesome prices!

I dropped like 1800 with them recently, and the next best quote was for 2200 from another supplier. Danny is the man!
Old 09-13-2007, 11:46 PM
  #24  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
danielm3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Pacoima, CA
Posts: 567
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (DESTROYER)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DESTROYER &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Daniel I'm sure you assumed I was going to resurrect this thread...

After talking to you on the phone, I went out to a few muffler shops, they looked at my ss tubing 16ga, and told me they wouldnt expand it. They then gave me a few examples of some broken tooling they had. I then went to another shop, they stuck it in, lubed it up, flipped the lever and CRRRAAAAACK! Their die just busted.

I am honestly considering getting the air unit due to cost, now was it really that bad?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, most muffler shops don't really work with stainless. I've had a few of the expanders break on me also, but usually only when I put the tube in there at an odd angle, even than it's rare for it to break.

The expander above, broke on me twice, the second time I bought this one (what I was telling you about on the phone):


I have used it heavily for the past 6 months with no problems at all. Its a $1000 more but is worth the money. The little one would struggle to expand the SS (it would but it was a lot of strain I could tell) the new one opens it like butter.
Old 09-14-2007, 08:37 AM
  #25  
Honda-Tech Member
 
DESTROYER's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: MESA, AZ, USA
Posts: 622
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

were you running it at the maximum recommended air pressure?


Quick Reply: Hydraulic pipe expander?



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 10:27 AM.