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Old 12-25-2008, 11:21 AM   #26
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I have a Dynasty and would have no problem getting a Diversion I saw it last week and it was a nice little package
it is a very nice welder. i was going to buy the econotig but it weighs in around 150lbs and thats to big for taking it all over the place like i do.
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it is a very nice welder. i was going to buy the econotig but it weighs in around 150lbs and thats to big for taking it all over the place like i do.


That's too heavy thats like carrying around a person lol
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it is a very nice welder. i was going to buy the econotig but it weighs in around 150lbs and thats to big for taking it all over the place like i do.
mines ~500lb so its a little too heavy for me to carry, lol
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That's too heavy thats like carrying around a person lol
yes it is, and seeing as my work car is a 1985 Corolla GT-S thats never going to happen lol not cool that E-Rok is a **** talker.
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yes it is, and seeing as my work car is a 1985 Corolla GT-S thats never going to happen lol not cool that E-Rok is a **** talker.
well, if you really take it everywhere alot and need to weld alum than you didnt have much choice. I just didnt lke the torch, seemed like a toy to me *shrug*
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well, if you really take it everywhere alot and need to weld alum than you didnt have much choice. I just didnt lke the torch, seemed like a toy to me *shrug*
i thought the same thing, BUT have you used it? or seen it in person? its a great torch. although i will be upgrading it in the future. its nice to have a finger switch thats so "flush" with the handle. although i dont use it.
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i thought the same thing, BUT have you used it? or seen it in person? its a great torch. although i will be upgrading it in the future. its nice to have a finger switch thats so "flush" with the handle. although i dont use it.
saw it in the store, but did not use it. so it has a foot petal attachment? not that bad then
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saw it in the store, but did not use it. so it has a foot petal attachment? not that bad then
yes look in my thread, its a optional item. 135$ is not bad. so now if i cant use my foot petal i can use the finger switch in a car for a cage ext.
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Would you guys recommend learninng with a foot pedal, or go right to a finger switch from the start?

I'll be doing lots of work within the car FWIW.

I'm going to have a look at whats out there this week, maybe I can pick up something on an emergency liquidation this week
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Would you guys recommend learninng with a foot pedal, or go right to a finger switch from the start?

I'll be doing lots of work within the car FWIW.

I'm going to have a look at whats out there this week, maybe I can pick up something on an emergency liquidation this week
im a X tattoo artiest so the foot switch is GREAT! but its whatever. i say learn with the foot switch.
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Syncrowave 200 r Diversion 165?
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http://www.weldingmart.com/Qstore/p003447.htm

I'm not sure everyones take on Lincolns, my buddy uses them a lot at his school with their Formula Baja car as well as Millers. The Lincoln has free shipping, where the Miller has a 500 dollar charge.

I'm going to see if the Sync 200 is ~2100 locally, if I have to ship something I might as well save the money and get the Lincoln lol

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Miller TIG Welder - Syncrowave 200 AC/DC TIG/Stick Package

Mfg Industrial Price: $2,429.00
Cyberweld Price: $1,936.00



Miller TIG Welder - Syncrowave 200 Runner AC/DC TIG/Stick Package

Mfg Industrial Price: $2,655.00
Cyberweld Price: $2,116.00

FREE standard ground shipping within contiguous U.S. on every item.


both red and blue are quality machines.. you just have to go through all the detailed specs and see what you prefer..

http://content.lincolnelectric.com/pdfs/products/literature/e3372_and_mc0886.pdf

http://www.millerwelds.com/products/tig/comparisons/syncrowave_200.html

more details on each machine.

lincoln precision tig 225

miller syncrowave 200

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You're the man, thank you for finding the free shipping on the Miller!!

My buddy is coming over today to help me go through stuff, he can most likely make more sense of things that I am making now. As to me, they are looking the same lol
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no problem, also the money saved from not having to pay a tax on the machine can go towards your argon tank purchase.
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Haha yea how much are tanks/gas usually? I was talking to my buddy about that last night. I get a local discount for working where I work so I'll get it there but they are closed until Monday.
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i paid $290 for my 330cf tank and my current re-fill price is $90, just try and get the biggest tank you can afford... you will save money on re-fills and save you from the "back again!" comments from the guys at your local welding shop..lol

with that said tanks and gas are A LOT cheaper at the smaller welding supply stores so do a local search for shops and compare prices.
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Awesome, thanks for the heads up!

The closest place to work is also closest to home, I'll call around and try to get them down the best I can. The 330 is like what, the one thats ~5 feet tall?
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with the safety cap yeah but the actual tank is about 1-1/2'.
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Even the cheap chinese machines will have a pretty good arc, especially on DC. Actually, it will be hard even if you can, to tell the difference in that and a Miller machine.

The differences to consider are:

AC, DC, or both?
Options (bells and whistles) foot pedal, high freq, pulse, etc
Product support
parts availability
torch compatibility (can you put a torch from the LWS on it)...such as Weldcraft
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I know its not quite as user-friendly as the Dynasty, but I am very happy with my Econotig. Bought it used off craigslist with two torches, foot pedal, regulator, argon tank and a heap of filler rods for $900.
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For 700 more you can have this from lincoln.

http://www.weldingmart.com/Qstore/p003447.htm

Just an option I've observed lol
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i paid $290 for my 330cf tank and my current re-fill price is $90,
Bought or lease+gas, and how long ago? I just got a 90cf and it was $279 outright with gas. Apparently the cost of steel has brought the cost of the tanks up quite a bit lately.
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are the 330cf tanks the ones that are about a foot wide? I guess I have the smaller one thats like 8" wide and like 5" and it cost me $35 a fill. I think they said $75 for the larger size fill.
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