flrdaccrd

I was doing an oil change today on my accord using a fram filter. when i put the filter on the car, i noticed the filter kept turning. it seemed pretty tight though. however, when i turned the car on, i was expecting something to go wrong....and it did. within seconds, i heard a pppfffff and then liquid spashing out underneath the car. i turned it off immediately to find 41/2 quarts in my driveway.

i guess the seal was split. i had the filter in my garage for about 2 months. i wonder if the cold air split the rubber. hope the cars' alright tommorow when i restart it after fixing it.

ejprimo

of course.... it would of only been a fram

LostGsr

I had something similar happen to me before. When I changed the oil filter, the old rubber gasket was stuck on the block. I didn't notice it and assumed it came off with the filter. So I proceeded to put the new one on, and therefore stacked two seals together. Oil sprayed all over the garage. Cleaning that mess up was the worst sh*t ever. I can't even begin to imagine cleaning those beaches after the Exxon spill.

Dr. Gonzo

Same here, but it was because it was the wrong filter...

flrdaccrd

finally got the opportunity to find out what happened with the filter. i never took the old gasket off the engine like in the case with lostgsr. man did that suck. i'm just happy nothing major happened to my engine.

ejprimo

so the gasket on the old filter got stuck to the block?

flrdaccrd

yeah, the gasket got stuck to the block. guess i should've looked when i took the filter off. i was kinda in a rush and my filters' hard to reach on my slammed accord.

PhatOptimo

This is one reason I use Honda OEM oil filters. It is impossible for the ring to break or stick to the block. A few months ago I went to the dealer and they give me a filter for free. SOME of the guys who work at the dealership are very cool (good peeps). Others, well you know are f#cktards.

g_man80

I'm not sure if this had anything to do people's filter seals sticking to the block, but it's good practice to lube up the new filter seal with oil prior to installing it. I usually get a good amount and rub it into the seal and also around all the threads before I put it on. Once I feel the filter touch the block, just another 1/2 turn and done.

Just throwing that out.
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JimBlake

I've gotten into the habit of wiping off the surface where the filter gasket seats. That way I can't miss it if the old gasket were stuck there.

NiiS

Really make sure to rub some oil on that seal as well, this will prevent binding...

you69

i know it may mean an extra stop but do yourself a favor and DON'T use a fram filter for anything ever again. i have nothing good to say about them.
i know this could be a totaly diff post but i use ACdelco i am sure there better out there but i don't know what they are or where to get them. any ideas?

wantmorepower

don't ever use fram

flrdaccrd

why not use one filter as opposed to another? they all look the same. and from what i here, they all work the same, right?

yobtah

I'd be reluctant to criticize Fram without any evidence, but I've seen Fram filters do this too. There's either no glue or very little glue between the metal filter body and the rubber seal. The seal sticks to the engine block better than it sticks to the filter itself. I've done the same thing you did... fresh oil change leaked oil everywhere. I've stopped buying any Fram filters...

ejprimo

not all oil filters are the same:

http://www.ntpog.org/reviews/filters/filters.shtml

for mopars, but you get the idea:

http://www.scuderiaciriani.com/rx7/oil_filter_study/

0philstireservice

it is true not all oil filters are the same..........hastings and amsoil are the best..........fram is one the worst

it is always good practice to wipe off the oil filter mounting surface before installing a new filter.......also check the old oil filter when you remove it to see if the gasket is still attached

ejprimo

you forgot to include WIX as one of the best.

NSX Bob

Same thing happened w/ my car, except the Mobil station did it and it cost them over $8,000 since my engine was fried (didn't blow open until I was doing 50 mph in 3rd gear). I know I'll never make that mistake now.

tominos

same thing happened to me. the old rubber gasket got stuck to block, and spilled out about 4 quarts on my driveway.

tSuperbike69

I have never seen any o rings stick to the block besides a fram. I recently cut ter and a toyota filter at work and the diffence is pretty big try cutting open a couple of new filters and looking at the the mopar ones are the worst design I have ever seen

0philstireservice

true....Wix would be my choice

chad174

damn, didn't anyone ever say anything to you about that before you started changing your own oil? the first thing my old man told me when he taught me to change oil when i was like 8 was to check the block for the gasket or just look at the filter aftr you take it off. not to talk ****, just sayin its the first thing i heard about it.

GM2000ITR

Been there, done that! I think everyone has done this ONCE!

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iTrader: (5)

i've heard of the gasket sticking to the block before, and then double stacking the gaskets accidentally which causes a leaking of oil. it can be really bad when all that oil is pressurized and finds the holes.

i normally make it a point to clean the block filter surface after taking the old oil filter off. also i apply some clean oil to the new oil filter gasket/seal. i've never had any problems with leaks or gaskets gettng stuck, even with the Fram oil filters. i've used Fram filters quite often without any problems whatsoever.
i'm not saying that Fram makes great filters or that they are as good as or better than the OEM filters, just that i've used them and they work fine for me. i'm not sure of the flow characteristics between the Fram Tough Guard or Double Guard and the Honda ones. i never disected them to compare the possible differences.
i use the Fram cause i usually get them discounted through my friend, couple $ each for the good ones.