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Old 08-18-2003, 11:32 AM
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Default Got my alignment done, now car wanders (suspension gurus - help!)

I got a sheet with all my numbers... check 'em out. Some of the numbers seem to be out of spec... I watched the guy do my whole alignment and he explained everything he was doing, it was really cool, the guy seems like a totally straight up cool guy. He's a honda guy, even... so I want to believe that my alignment is just fine... but the car doesn't act like it.
1. I have a CRAZY amount of throttle steer now. when i'm shifting hard, i let up off the gas and the wheel jerks to the right.

2. The bitch wanders all over the place, it's pretty subtle but it's friggin annoying!!! When i'm on the freeway I hold the wheel in one place and my car kinda decides to drift back and forth just a little bit... the only thing to prevent this is constantly turning the wheel back and forth to correct for this.... The steering wheel feels "loose."

3. I also have a lot of bump steer, i had bump steer before but now it seems worse...

Honda: Civic del Sol : with VTEC : 1993

Front Left:

................................Actual.........Bef ore.........Specified Range
Camber.....................-0.1.............0.1.................-1.3....0.7
Caster.......................1.0..............1.0. .................0.2....2.2
Toe...........................0.03...........-2.62..............-0.08..0.08
SAI..........................10.9..............10. 7.............................
Included Angle...........10.8.............10.8............. ................
Turning Angle Difference..................................-7.50..-3.50

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Front Right:

................................Actual.........Bef ore.........Specified Range
Camber.....................-0.1.............0.2................-1.3....0.7
Caster.......................1.5..............0.5. ................0.2....2.2
Toe...........................0.03...........-2.52.............-0.08..0.08
SAI..........................11.1..............10. 6............................
Included Angle...........11.0.............10.8............. ...............
Turning Angle Difference..................................-7.50..-3.50

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Front

................................Actual.........Bef ore.........Specified Range
Cross Camber.............0.0.............0.0............ ...................
Cross Caster..............-0.5.............0.5...............................
Cross SAI..................-0.2.............0.1...............................
Total Toe....................0.06..........-5.15...............-0.16-0.16
Cross Turn Diff.............................................. ...................

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Rear Left:

................................Actual.........Bef ore.........Specified Range
Camber.....................-1.2.............-1.1...............-1.5.....0.5
Caster........................0.03............0.20 ..............0.04....0.16

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Rear Right:

................................Actual.........Bef ore.........Specified Range
Camber.....................-1.5.............-1.6...............-1.5.....0.5
Caster........................0.04............0.01 ..............0.04....0.16

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Rear

................................Actual.........Bef ore.........Specified Range
Cross Camber.............0.4..............0.5........... ......................
Total Toe.....................0.07............0.22...... .........0.08....0.32
Thrust Angle...............-0.01...........0.10............................... .


So are my numbers ok?

What can I do to make my car feel better??
Old 08-18-2003, 01:26 PM
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Default Re: Got my alignment done, now car wanders (Black93DelSolSi)

have you checked your balljoints? any mystery grease around your front suspension/inside the wheels?
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Default Re: Got my alignment done, now car wanders (Black93DelSolSi)

It's hard to tell without driving it but if I have someone complain about wander I set front and rear toe to the max spec. (toe in) It looks like he moved rear toe from .22 to .08. It's not much but maybe you're real **** about this stuff. LOL J/K
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Hell yeah I'm **** about this, I wanna feel like I'm on frikkin' RAILS.... with my stock-*** frikkin SETUP.
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Default Re: Got my alignment done, now car wanders (AngryTroll)

Seriously though, if the problem is in the bushings and all that it will go away when I get around to replacing all of them...

I know some of you are friggin' suspension geniuses, and I would be all happy and stuff if one of you could somehow, like, cut and paste my alignment specs up there and edit them to what would be the optimal setup.

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Its probably your tires because your old alignment will wear the tires uneven and when you fix the alignment your tire wear will cause the car to wander off.

make sense? How bad was your alignment before you had it fixed?
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Default Re: Got my alignment done, now car wanders (Tuney)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tuney &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Its probably your tires because your old alignment will wear the tires uneven and when you fix the alignment your tire wear will cause the car to wander off.

make sense? How bad was your alignment before you had it fixed? </TD></TR></TABLE>

very true. i will most likely have this problem when i finally get my alignment done soon. i installed a newer Teg rear brake setup recently and the alignment is way off, especially on the passenger side. you can definantly see it just by looking at it. of course the tires have been wearing uneven the past couple weeks and are getting used to it. then when i do a 4 wheel alignment, they'll have to go back to normal. might have a little wandering or torque steer in a rut on the road.

i have had alignments in the past, just like my friends, where it got worse then it originally was instead of better. then another alignment by someone else needs to be done. but it shouldn't be the case in this situation, i hope.
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