Is it Possible to bypass the Crank-Position-Sensor w/ the Crank-Fluctuation-Sensor?
10-08-2005, 10:17 AM
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Re: (Katman)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Katman »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">this is an interesting fix for the CKF sensor problem. I'm gonna try this out on a friends car and see if it works. If it does, I'm going to document this fix on my tech site giving you credit for it, omahaturbocivic, if you don't mind!</TD></TR></TABLE>?????
10-08-2005, 10:18 AM
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Re: (boomslang)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boomslang »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The OBD2A pins cited are C1 & C4 and C11 & C14. These pins are for CKF and CYP, respectively.
So which is it? CKP has the 24 teeth but occupies pins C2 and C12.</TD></TR></TABLE> so we removed this pins and promblem sloved?
So which is it? CKP has the 24 teeth but occupies pins C2 and C12.</TD></TR></TABLE> so we removed this pins and promblem sloved?
10-19-2005, 12:30 AM
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Re: bypass ckf with ckp? (omahaturbocivic)
would this work if im throwing a code for the ckp sensor (code 4)? cuz my ckf sensor doesnt throw a code and will i be able to trick the ckp sensor?
01-06-2006, 11:18 AM
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Will this work on a jdm obd2 b18c? Or anyone know if pins C2 and C12 are the ones to use. The ibd2 jdb b18 doesn't have the sensor, so I assume its the same as an obd1 usdm..
01-31-2006, 06:58 PM
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Re: (janarki)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by janarki »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Will this work on a jdm obd2 b18c? Or anyone know if pins C2 and C12 are the ones to use. The ibd2 jdb b18 doesn't have the sensor, so I assume its the same as an obd1 usdm..</TD></TR></TABLE>
works perferctly on a jdm b18c engine. I just tried it on my car today and now i will be able to hopefully pass emmissions.
works perferctly on a jdm b18c engine. I just tried it on my car today and now i will be able to hopefully pass emmissions.
03-11-2006, 11:55 AM
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Re: (boomslang)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boomslang »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Thanks. That's interesting because the CYP is only a 4 tooth sensor. That's only 2 pulses per crankshaft revolution. I just wonder why/how it fools the ecu.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Uh, no.
For 88-01 Honduh:
TDC sensor is the 4 tooth reluctor, used to determine initial startup injector and ignition timing.
CKP sensor is the 16/24 tooth reluctor, used to fine tune engine position for precise injector/ignition timing control.
CYP is the 1 tooth reluctor, used to determine when cyl #1 is at TDC, for sequential fuel injection.
Go check your Helms if you doubt me.
You can take it as a reality check, or you can take it as me being an asshat, but outsourcing to the chinese to make all your harnesses has dulled your edge. That is the simple truth of the matter.
Sorta sad no one else picked up on that...
Thanks. That's interesting because the CYP is only a 4 tooth sensor. That's only 2 pulses per crankshaft revolution. I just wonder why/how it fools the ecu.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Uh, no.
For 88-01 Honduh:
TDC sensor is the 4 tooth reluctor, used to determine initial startup injector and ignition timing.
CKP sensor is the 16/24 tooth reluctor, used to fine tune engine position for precise injector/ignition timing control.
CYP is the 1 tooth reluctor, used to determine when cyl #1 is at TDC, for sequential fuel injection.
Go check your Helms if you doubt me.
You can take it as a reality check, or you can take it as me being an asshat, but outsourcing to the chinese to make all your harnesses has dulled your edge. That is the simple truth of the matter.
Sorta sad no one else picked up on that...
03-13-2006, 08:15 PM
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Re: (Katman)
I probably worded it all wrong.
I make all my own personal harnesses, and repeatedly find myself up to my armpits in solder 'n shrinkwrap on... every vehicle I touch. Mister Boomslang makes a ton more money than I do, because he's more of a business man than I'm capable of being, but I guarantee he hasn't touched any wiring in a minute since he has his product made in bulk.
I don't have any problems with anyone, but I am a neurotic perfectionist with poor social skills and degenerating insomnia. Someone confuses a TDC with a CYP, and I get all butt hurt.
Best bet for the longevity of this thread is everybody ignore me, except when I shout bits of tech trivia from the sidelines, which is all I really care about anyway.
I make all my own personal harnesses, and repeatedly find myself up to my armpits in solder 'n shrinkwrap on... every vehicle I touch. Mister Boomslang makes a ton more money than I do, because he's more of a business man than I'm capable of being, but I guarantee he hasn't touched any wiring in a minute since he has his product made in bulk.
I don't have any problems with anyone, but I am a neurotic perfectionist with poor social skills and degenerating insomnia. Someone confuses a TDC with a CYP, and I get all butt hurt.
Best bet for the longevity of this thread is everybody ignore me, except when I shout bits of tech trivia from the sidelines, which is all I really care about anyway.
03-28-2006, 04:21 PM
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Re: bypass ckf with ckp? (Wazup)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Wazup »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">will this trick work for d-series ECUs and engines too?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I don't see why it would not work....
I don't see why it would not work....
03-28-2006, 05:11 PM
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Re: bypass ckf with ckp? (omahaturbocivic)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by omahaturbocivic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I pmed you this back to you but I will post for all to see since I originally made the first breif post.
I dont remembet the exact details but the concept is pretty simple, when the motor is running the ecu is trying to compare the ckf sensor at the crank(which you no longer have) with ckp sensor from the dizzy which both output the same 12 pulses per crank revolution(or 24 per cam revolution) to make sure your timing belt is alligned correctly. All you need to do is to run the wires from the ckp from the distributor to both the ckp and the ckf and the ecu is happy. I dont have a pinout handy and you may want to search for a good obd2 pinout because the pin layout is a little more confusing on these and the pins I posted were only for obd2a, if you are obd2b it will be different. From what I can remember from that old post for obd2a you take the ckf(the crank sensor you dont have) which is pins 1 and 11(11 should be directly below 1) and cut them a few inches from the ecu, then take the ecu side and tap c1 into c4 but make sure the original c4 is still hooked up. Then tap c11 into c14(c14 is directly below c4) leaving c14 hooked up as well. Now the wires for c4 and c14 should go into pins both c1, c4 and c11,c14 respectively. The wires for c1 and c11 on the harness side stay unhooked as they went to the sensor that is no longer there anyways. Hope that clears it up for ya!
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Just a little confused, so its basically just tapping c1 into c4, and c11 into c14? soldering the wires a must? or can those crimping connectors as shown on katman's tech site work?
sorry, im obviously a complete dumbass when it comes to wiring, but trying to learn.
I dont remembet the exact details but the concept is pretty simple, when the motor is running the ecu is trying to compare the ckf sensor at the crank(which you no longer have) with ckp sensor from the dizzy which both output the same 12 pulses per crank revolution(or 24 per cam revolution) to make sure your timing belt is alligned correctly. All you need to do is to run the wires from the ckp from the distributor to both the ckp and the ckf and the ecu is happy. I dont have a pinout handy and you may want to search for a good obd2 pinout because the pin layout is a little more confusing on these and the pins I posted were only for obd2a, if you are obd2b it will be different. From what I can remember from that old post for obd2a you take the ckf(the crank sensor you dont have) which is pins 1 and 11(11 should be directly below 1) and cut them a few inches from the ecu, then take the ecu side and tap c1 into c4 but make sure the original c4 is still hooked up. Then tap c11 into c14(c14 is directly below c4) leaving c14 hooked up as well. Now the wires for c4 and c14 should go into pins both c1, c4 and c11,c14 respectively. The wires for c1 and c11 on the harness side stay unhooked as they went to the sensor that is no longer there anyways. Hope that clears it up for ya!
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Just a little confused, so its basically just tapping c1 into c4, and c11 into c14? soldering the wires a must? or can those crimping connectors as shown on katman's tech site work?
sorry, im obviously a complete dumbass when it comes to wiring, but trying to learn.
03-29-2006, 10:18 AM
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Re: bypass ckf with ckp? (Wazup)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Wazup »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Just a little confused, so its basically just tapping c1 into c4, and c11 into c14? soldering the wires a must? or can those crimping connectors as shown on katman's tech site work?
sorry, im obviously a complete dumbass when it comes to wiring, but trying to learn.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I believe you can just tap into those wire pin locations using the crimping connector shown on my site..
Just a little confused, so its basically just tapping c1 into c4, and c11 into c14? soldering the wires a must? or can those crimping connectors as shown on katman's tech site work?
sorry, im obviously a complete dumbass when it comes to wiring, but trying to learn.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I believe you can just tap into those wire pin locations using the crimping connector shown on my site..
04-06-2006, 02:15 PM
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Re: (SLoWpOkECiViC)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SLoWpOkECiViC »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is it possible to do this trick and still pass the bar exam?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'm sure it will, as long as the ecu doesn't throw a code, you should be fine...
I'm sure it will, as long as the ecu doesn't throw a code, you should be fine...
04-09-2006, 06:14 PM
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Re: (Katman)
i was wondering if anyone who has done this take a picture of it...
i know everything that needs to be done has been stated in this thread, but i am def. a visual type of do'er.
if someone can be kind enough to post this, i will appreciate it... 
i know everything that needs to be done has been stated in this thread, but i am def. a visual type of do'er.
if someone can be kind enough to post this, i will appreciate it...
04-27-2006, 09:23 AM
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Re: (richboi)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by richboi »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">got them pix yet?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Of connecting one wire to another...?? What exactly is confusing?
Of connecting one wire to another...?? What exactly is confusing?