SiRkid

Just curious if anyone has any experience with both setups.

The F2 type II's are fairly new so there isnt much info on them though ive only read positive reviews. I wonder how they will do out on the track?


Im trying to decide between the F2's and a PIC set up. (not sure if Ill get adjustable or apex) Though the F2's are fully adjustable. Prices are similar.
Car is daily driven with some track days throughout the season.

info on the F2 if you havent seen or heard of them.
http://www.f2autolife.com/stor...id=50

rates on the f2 are 12k/8k from what ive been able to find.

thanks for the help.

Modified by SiRkid at 5:49 PM 3/10/2008


Modified by SiRkid at 11:58 PM 3/11/2008

robs97

have not heard to much about the pic suspension but I personally am getting the F2 suspension sometime next week and would urge you too as well they have great reviews.......

bmoua

PIC hands down...i'd choose the PIC apexi setup over the FF type 2's.

SiRkid

really? why? (Im genuinely curious)

They both get great reviews. I can get the f2's for quite a bit less than the PIC adjustables. Even a bit less than the apex. Thats why I am considering it. I always wanted the PIC's but then I found out about the f2's and they seem like a good deal.Adjustable and have good reviews.

Anyone with direct experience chime in?

thanks

Sloopez

I just picked up a set of f2's... pretty satified with them ....i just need to get an extended top hat so i can preload them...car is too low

mormonboy

i would personally pick PIC's because they offer more off the self spring rates for the same price where as F2's only come in 8kfront, 6k rear. and if you wanted to get a different spring rate, you'd have to pay more. kinda corny,

bmoua

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SiRkid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">really? why? (Im genuinely curious)

They both get great reviews. I can get the f2's for quite a bit less than the PIC adjustables. Even a bit less than the apex. Thats why I am considering it. I always wanted the PIC's but then I found out about the f2's and they seem like a good deal.Adjustable and have good reviews.

Anyone with direct experience chime in?

thanks

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even though i have no experience with either setup, just from reading the reviews and talking with people who have both setups, PIC's FTW.

Honestly though, you can't compare the PIC selects to the FF2's. IMO, the PIC selects are in a whole different level than the FF2's. Im sure the FF2's are great for a DD/track setup, but the PIC's are just plain better.

skata89

http://www.vadriven.com/forums...ction

Im gonna go with the PIC....

Bjorn20

so your going to completely ignore f2 because 1 shock out of thousands blew out? I'm pretty sure car parts are made by humans, and humans do make mistakes.

In another scenario, the owner might have not read how to properly use the product and the shock blew because of misuse???

But all in all, whenever i get the $ im going with f2

To above comment... what makes PIC in such a higher class than F2's ? ?? ?

Delano5050

Just a little thing worth noting: I think both have a one year warranty...but the PIC encourage you to track the car with it's suspension because it does not void the warranty. kinda lets you know how much they believe in there product. However I have heard great things about both suspensions set ups. The F2's also offers a Swift Spring edition (price goes up though). I have heard great things about the PIC customer service as well, I had a great experience when I e-mailed them.

Just real quick too...have you considered any other suspension set ups?
You may want to look into:
CG/koni
Eibach pro-street S
Do your research and choose something that will meet your needs. There are a lot of good suspensions / there are a lot of bad one's too. But they all may do something a little different than the other.

bmoua

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bjorn20 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so your going to completely ignore f2 because 1 shock out of thousands blew out? I'm pretty sure car parts are made by humans, and humans do make mistakes.

In another scenario, the owner might have not read how to properly use the product and the shock blew because of misuse???

But all in all, whenever i get the $ im going with f2

To above comment... what makes PIC in such a higher class than F2's ? ?? ?

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check out the PIC website and the FF2 website, just from plain view PIC offers information about their coilovers. From shock dyno's, shock oil they use, spring rates and etc...FF2's site has nothing but the application information and very vague info on the parts included in their coilover system. Just from this information alone the PIC's are a better buy. You actually know what your getting...

PIC
http://picperformance.com/store/scripts/news.asp

FF2
http://www.f2autolife.com/stor...id=50



Modified by bmoua at 2:12 PM 3/12/2008

evade_07

F2 FTW. my buddy picked these up when they were first released i ride in his car and the suspension is amazing for daily and it wil handle great on the track as well (which we both plan to do later someday). F2 for the fraction of the cost with no downfall on performance over PIC IMO. F2's are a great product hands down. but if you have the cash for PIC do what it do baby.

im purchasing my set of F2's this month! cant wait!

Bjorn20

i dont give a **** what their website consists of, if i have a question about their products i will contact their tech people on that.

So your saying if a completely **** coilover spent more time and money on their website to make it pretty, it automatically makes it better than a quality product that spends less effort on their website? Not to be an ******* or anything, but just saying

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by evade_07 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">F2 FTW. my buddy picked these up when they were first released i ride in his car and the suspension is amazing for daily and it wil handle great on the track as well (which we both plan to do later someday). F2 for the fraction of the cost with no downfall on performance over PIC IMO. F2's are a great product hands down. but if you have the cash for PIC do what it do baby.

im purchasing my set of F2's this month! cant wait!</TD></TR></TABLE>

I wouldnt say that f2's are a fraction of the cost of PIC, arent the f2's like $800 or so? With the swift upgrade its around $1200. But again it depends on what the car will be used for.

Im not downing either company, in fact i have not read or heard 1 bad review on either, but i dunno just depends how much you want to spend and what you want out of it.

bmoua

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bjorn20 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Im not downing either company, in fact i have not read or heard 1 bad review on either, but i dunno just depends how much you want to spend and what you want out of it.

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i agree

if you have the money then go ahead and pick up the PIC Selects, if not the FF2's will do the job. Its almost like deciding on a B16A2 to a B18C1, both are very nice power plants but the B18C1 is the better motor.

SiRkid

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mormonboy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> f2 come in 8kfront, 6k rear.

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I was told 12k/8k directly from them...
???

I guess no one here has direct experience with both?!

both get good reviews. pic does have more info on their site and seems like the better track set up for sure.

THe reason im not going for anything else is, that Ive wanted pic for a long time. but then I discovered the f2's and some are forsale locally. If f2 had bad reviews or was a shitty product id go right for the pic's. but they are a great product from what ive read.

I was just curious if someone has some seat time in both and could give me some good feedback on which one they liked more.


thanks for the help so far.

bmoua

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SiRkid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I was told 12k/8k directly from them...
???

I guess no one here has direct experience with both?!

both get good reviews. pic does have more info on their site and seems like the better track set up for sure.

THe reason im not going for anything else is, that Ive wanted pic for a long time. but then I discovered the f2's and some are forsale locally. If f2 had bad reviews or was a shitty product id go right for the pic's. but they are a great product from what ive read.

I was just curious if someone has some seat time in both and could give me some good feedback on which one they liked more.


thanks for the help so far.
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i was told that the FF2 OTS spring rates were 10k/6k, i called a local retailer but then again the shop sounded like it was the first time somebody asked about spring rates haha...

like i stated above, choosing between these two coilovers is like choosing between a b16a2 or a b18c1. If you have the money for th b18c1 get it. Its easy as that, you pay for the better performing product.

evade_07

ill ask my buddy for sure for all you guys what the spring rate was. i remember he was saying for teh stiffer 12k/10k they charge extra. so i know its something like 10k/8k or something like that. ill let you guys know.

mormonboy

lolz. this is funny. i like how ff2's get great n super duper reviews but not a single person knows the actual specifications on them because, well, specs on ff2's arent available. lolz

bmoua

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mormonboy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">lolz. this is funny. i like how ff2's get great n super duper reviews but not a single person knows the actual specifications on them because, well, specs on ff2's arent available. lolz </TD></TR></TABLE>

finally somebody who see's the light....dont look back bro haha

evade_07

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bmoua &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

finally somebody who see's the light....dont look back bro haha </TD></TR></TABLE>

thats gotta be the most ignorant **** i ever heard.

the stock spring rates you get from them are
10f
6r

robs97

all the specs are just at a phone call away...they are located in Alhambra,ca and they are really cool people.....

mormonboy

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by robs97 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">all the specs are just at a phone call away...they are located in Alhambra,ca and they are really cool people.....</TD></TR></TABLE>

good job.

SiRkid

lol its kind of funny how all the specs arent even clear.

what really are the spring rates?

mormonboy

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SiRkid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">lol its kind of funny how all the specs arent even clear.

what really are the spring rates?

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last time i PM'd pworld bout their ff2's they said the spring rates are 8k/6k, but others r saying different. obviously, no one really knows because Function Form prolly doesn't even know themselves.

bmoua

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by evade_07 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

thats gotta be the most ignorant **** i ever heard.

the stock spring rates you get from them are
10f
6r</TD></TR></TABLE>

haha...if you think my comment is ignorant, then i'm sure you are ignorant yourself.