crisps221

I want to slam my 92 Civic hatchback, by slam I mean 3-3&1/2 inch drop. The car is my daily and I won't be autocrossing it, so my one and only concern is comfort. Right now I'm on koni oranges and teins and the ride is definitely stiff/rough.

My main questions are, is the koni yellow/gc setup just too extreme for a daily? And if so, then what's a good setup that I can also buy some non eBay extended top hats or bumpstops for? Seems they help out the ride a lot on slammed cars from what I've read so far

Runnerdown

Lowered 3-3.5 inch will ride like **** no matter what the setup is. Extended top hats give a bit more room for travel. You either crash off the bump stops or get really stiff springs which ride harsh as well. Dumping the car is a fairly short term phase until the novelty wears off.

spAdam

iTrader: (1)

No. That's just not how it works, and you're not going to be the one who changes it.

If you want to build yourself a lolo go ahead and do it, but you don't get to have everything. Also, Koni/GC are far from an extreme setup. They're actually about as basic as you can get and still have decent parts. The top hats will help some by keeping you off the bumpstops at reasonable heights but can only do so much.

In all honesty, just get whatever until you decide that you're over your slammed phase. It will make you appreciate a nice setup more when you get it.

veks

https://honda-tech.com/forums/suspension-brakes-54/you-cannot-ride-slammed-have-smooth-ride-2603553/

GSaura

Koni gc is not good for slamming the car Bc of the reduction in shock travel with reduction in ride height. The lowest car I have has 12kg/mm rates in front and is actually not that bad a ride with 5kg/mm springs in the rear. The front shocks have adjustable preload and a 40mm piston, though. If I have to drive 100's of miles to a track in a neighboring state, that's how I do it. Once I get to the track I swap out the rears for 14kg/mm rate and the ride is unbearable.

crisps221

I get that my car isn't gonna ride smooth as butter, but I want the best ride that's possible. Even a stock civic rides pretty harsh sometimes. I just want something worth my money whether i get over my slammed "phase" or not. Something better than my koni oranges. Because if it's not better there's no point in spending the money and i'll just stay at my 2.5 drop

TunerN00b

Considering that stock Civics are under damped, no, they certainly do not ride harsh. They're bouncy, if anything. Go test drive a new Lancer if you want to experience harsh.

You can have stiff springs rates (needed for a big drop) and a smooth ride, it just requires shocks that are worth more than the car, and will still be stiff. Anything without 4 adjusters isn't in this range, as you're going to need to seriously reduce the high speed compression damping to get this.

The rest of us just accept that it's going to be less than pleasant and do it anyway. 2000 GSR (same suspension as the 92 Civic), 400/400 rates (too soft for your intended drop), Koni sport shocks, and a 64 mile daily commute. I have no issues with it. My wife won't ride in the car.

Design

Your civic hatch has just under 3" of suspension travel at stock height. Your drop puts you on the bump stops. Period.

Your current setup's harshness has less to do with springs/damping and more to do with suspension travel. There's simply not enough room to absorb moderate bumps. And I'm sure the valving has degraded due to prolonged contact with the bump stops.

Hate to sound harsh. Raise the car or deal with it.

aw614

honestly just go bags if you want to slam it, plus you won't be holding people up going into plazas and speed bumps.

Tyson

you have a 1992 civic.

that would be an old piece of **** if you havent maintained it.

its not just a matter of replacing shocks and springs that make a ride nice.

its ALSO all the other stuff like tightening up any rattles or play around the steering, tie rods, bushings etc.

if you say a "stock civic" rides rough, then its because all the other stuff is ****, too.

crisps221

Sorry I meant to say stock civics are bouncy, not harsh, already. My hatch had skunk2 struts and eBay coils before and even that rode with less bounce than my koni orange and tein setup even though I haven't read the best reviews about skunk2. I think if anything a set up like koni yellow/gc or tokico illumines/gc and extended top hats would be better

As for it being all ****, I just bought it, but I've already replaced the rear lcas and plan on replacing on the bearings in the front before I put on a new suspension. But I had the koni orange/teins on my old car and they still rode with bounce, even with more weight.

Freemananana

iTrader: (3)

More weight doesn't stop the car from bouncing. It probably made it bounce more. You need more dampening for the spring rate you chose. The spring is too stiff and your shock isn't strong enough to prevent it from bouncing. That's the problem with eBay 'coilovers' too. If you don't upgrade the shock, the ride is awful.

More weight=Less bounce... I've got a 6 ton tractor at work that rides like a damn trampoline.

wutthebun

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function & form type 2

Emeraldbomber

I ride progress csII's on a 94 ej1

450 up front
350 in rear.

Feels like I'm riding on a 2x4 an that's with roughly 11/2-2in drop. So there's that

skylinerb26dett

^ listen to him