How To: Brake Line Tuck Guidelines..
05-01-2008, 10:04 PM
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^I like it, never seen the brake lines put in that location before, it's different.
When u use a wirewheel to get the rust off, be sure to use metal polish to seal them and bring out the shine
When u use a wirewheel to get the rust off, be sure to use metal polish to seal them and bring out the shine
05-01-2008, 11:14 PM
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At first, I used Meguires in a tub, but I recently changed to Bursch liquid metal polish. I can apply it with a buffer (great for when I polish wheels and the ASR bar)
05-02-2008, 03:56 AM
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ha i polished the crx's brakelines by hand and ended up with a [freak]ed up thumb lol i gott use a powertool next time!
the brake lines on my car are sick as hell i dont understand why people hate on a extremly klean setup, its to show you wat it looks like before you hind all the flaws and bling it out! i havent seen a cleaner setup behind the dash, atleast mine doesnt look like a toy that i used to play with at the doctors office when i was a kid.
Modified by the jdmchop at 8:01 AM 5/2/2008
the brake lines on my car are sick as hell i dont understand why people hate on a extremly klean setup, its to show you wat it looks like before you hind all the flaws and bling it out! i havent seen a cleaner setup behind the dash, atleast mine doesnt look like a toy that i used to play with at the doctors office when i was a kid.
Modified by the jdmchop at 8:01 AM 5/2/2008
05-02-2008, 04:01 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by the jdmchop »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ha i polished the crx's brakelines by hand and ended up with a [freak]ed up thumb lol i gott use a powertool next time!
the brake lines on my car are sick as hell i dont understand why people hate on a extremly klean setup, its to show you wat it looks like before you hind all the flaws and bling it out! i havent seen a cleaner setup behind the dash, atleast mine doesnt look like a toy that i used to play with at the doctors office when i was a kid.
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actually that would be a pretty badass mod for your kid would'nt it?
here son play with the wodden blocks on out brake lines
the brake lines on my car are sick as hell i dont understand why people hate on a extremly klean setup, its to show you wat it looks like before you hind all the flaws and bling it out! i havent seen a cleaner setup behind the dash, atleast mine doesnt look like a toy that i used to play with at the doctors office when i was a kid.
actually that would be a pretty badass mod for your kid would'nt it?
here son play with the wodden blocks on out brake lines
05-03-2008, 10:29 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by the jdmchop »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ha i polished the crx's brakelines by hand and ended up with a [freak]ed up thumb lol i gott use a powertool next time!
the brake lines on my car are sick as hell i dont understand why people hate on a extremly klean setup, its to show you wat it looks like before you hind all the flaws and bling it out! i havent seen a cleaner setup behind the dash, atleast mine doesnt look like a toy that i used to play with at the doctors office when i was a kid.
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Oh ok, that was your car that NHswaps is working on? Youre the dude with the EL front end right?
the brake lines on my car are sick as hell i dont understand why people hate on a extremly klean setup, its to show you wat it looks like before you hind all the flaws and bling it out! i havent seen a cleaner setup behind the dash, atleast mine doesnt look like a toy that i used to play with at the doctors office when i was a kid.
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Oh ok, that was your car that NHswaps is working on? Youre the dude with the EL front end right?
05-03-2008, 11:06 AM
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To each his own. I do however think the EL front end only looks good on sedans.
btw, I still think the brakeline job isn't bad, it's really hard to do.
Modified by Fresh'86 at 12:33 PM 5/3/2008
btw, I still think the brakeline job isn't bad, it's really hard to do.
Modified by Fresh'86 at 12:33 PM 5/3/2008
05-03-2008, 10:28 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Fresh’86 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">To each his own. I do however think the EL front end only looks good on sedans.
btw, I still think the brakeline job isn't bad, it's really hard to do.
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i totaly agrre with you thats why its off, i got a good price on it so i tried it out!
anyone else got pics of their lines behind the firewall?
btw, I still think the brakeline job isn't bad, it's really hard to do.
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i totaly agrre with you thats why its off, i got a good price on it so i tried it out!
anyone else got pics of their lines behind the firewall?
05-04-2008, 12:43 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by the jdmchop »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
i totaly agrre with you thats why its off, i got a good price on it so i tried it out!
anyone else got pics of their lines behind the firewall?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Only progress on my car so far:
Getting all the holes done first and mocking up the lines, then painting the bay and putting everything together.
i totaly agrre with you thats why its off, i got a good price on it so i tried it out!
anyone else got pics of their lines behind the firewall?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Only progress on my car so far:
Getting all the holes done first and mocking up the lines, then painting the bay and putting everything together.
05-04-2008, 03:20 AM
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-DC4-: Get them from anplumbing.com or summitracing.com
Any of those places. You can get those ones shown above by Earls. They cost around $30 for 3 in 3/16"
Any of those places. You can get those ones shown above by Earls. They cost around $30 for 3 in 3/16"
05-08-2008, 05:43 PM
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where are you guys getting the fittings that look like the factory threaded pieces. the gold colored ones that go over the hard line and thread into the master cylinder and the prop. valve. and what are the thread specs and end flare specs on it?
05-08-2008, 09:48 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JSPECSIR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">where are you guys getting the fittings that look like the factory threaded pieces. the gold colored ones that go over the hard line and thread into the master cylinder and the prop. valve. and what are the thread specs and end flare specs on it?</TD></TR></TABLE>
As far as I know, I think only Honda is the only one selling the gold plated ones. If you would like to go with non gold plated, ANplumbing.com sells them...look for the Honda 10.0x1.0 Factory fittings.
flares are 45 degree on the Honda fitting, 37 degree on AN fittings.
As far as I know, I think only Honda is the only one selling the gold plated ones. If you would like to go with non gold plated, ANplumbing.com sells them...look for the Honda 10.0x1.0 Factory fittings.
flares are 45 degree on the Honda fitting, 37 degree on AN fittings.
05-09-2008, 03:46 AM
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It's been a while since I've read through the entire post. But is there a source to get a shopping cart list, so to say, of all the correct fittings needed?
For example, are the brake line fittings going in the master cylinder NPT or BSPT? What size? etc. etc.
For example, are the brake line fittings going in the master cylinder NPT or BSPT? What size? etc. etc.
05-09-2008, 06:05 AM
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People think this is more confusing than it really is!!
The fittings in the Master Cylinder, Prop Valve, OEM Brake caliper hose are all OEM metric fittings.
They are all 10 x 1.00mm fittings.
NPT and BSP are pipe thread fittings, they are not used on our brake systems....
All the fittings on our brake systems are 10x1.00mm and if you wanna use the aftermarket earls (or other brand) fittings then they are all -3an fittings as this is the correct size fitting to fit over the size brake line we use which is 3/16"
So use 10x1.00mm fittings and adapt them to the -3AN aftermarket fittings.
It really is not that complicated.
You cant really use a shopping list as alot of peope do it different.
With mine, i removed all of my OEM brake hardlines (apart from the OEM caliper flex hose). From there i used 10mmx1.00 male to -3an male brake adaptors on all 4 OEM brake hose from the caliper, the 2 MC fittings and the 6 prop valve fittings. From there i used -3AN tube nuts and sleeves on all the lines on everything they connected too. I used 2 90 deg bulkheads for the rear lines, 2 straight bulkheads for the lines from the MC to the prop valve, a stright bulkhead fitting on the drivers side in the wheel arch and a 90 deg bulkhead on the passenger side wheel arch. I used bulkhead nuts on all these bulkheads.
Thats it...
My advice,
Get a piece of paper, grab a pen. Now, draw a square and write MC in it, after that draw the lines and all the fittings you need. Write how many of each item you need.
Then, log onto http://www.anplumbing.com http://www.summitracing.com or http://www.jegs.com or even goto a local auto parts store if this is an option you have. Now order the parts you need.
If you cant work out what metric fittings you need, then are you going to have the tools or ability to bend and flare the lines correctly?
It's just frustrating how every second post people ask what brake adaptors they need, or what size fittings they need... The answer is in the inital post and every second post from there on!!
To make it more clear:
1. Brake adaptors: 10mm x 1.00. Both ends are MALE
2. -3AN tube nuts, tube sleeves, bulkeads, bulkhead nuts.
3. 3/16" brake line
That is it, those 3 are ALL you need. Now do some reading and work out exactly how many of each you need. Also, work out whether to get steel, stainless or aluminium.
This setup utilises the 37 degree single flare, not a double flare. Make sure you have a single flaring tool. Also, take note that this is prob not legal to use on your brake system.
Basically read this thread from post number 1 right upto this post... You should have all the info you need.
Modified by Paul1985 at 7:12 AM 5/9/2008
Modified by Paul1985 at 7:34 AM 5/9/2008
Modified by Paul1985 at 7:37 AM 5/9/2008
The fittings in the Master Cylinder, Prop Valve, OEM Brake caliper hose are all OEM metric fittings.
They are all 10 x 1.00mm fittings.
NPT and BSP are pipe thread fittings, they are not used on our brake systems....
All the fittings on our brake systems are 10x1.00mm and if you wanna use the aftermarket earls (or other brand) fittings then they are all -3an fittings as this is the correct size fitting to fit over the size brake line we use which is 3/16"
So use 10x1.00mm fittings and adapt them to the -3AN aftermarket fittings.
It really is not that complicated.
You cant really use a shopping list as alot of peope do it different.
With mine, i removed all of my OEM brake hardlines (apart from the OEM caliper flex hose). From there i used 10mmx1.00 male to -3an male brake adaptors on all 4 OEM brake hose from the caliper, the 2 MC fittings and the 6 prop valve fittings. From there i used -3AN tube nuts and sleeves on all the lines on everything they connected too. I used 2 90 deg bulkheads for the rear lines, 2 straight bulkheads for the lines from the MC to the prop valve, a stright bulkhead fitting on the drivers side in the wheel arch and a 90 deg bulkhead on the passenger side wheel arch. I used bulkhead nuts on all these bulkheads.
Thats it...
My advice,
Get a piece of paper, grab a pen. Now, draw a square and write MC in it, after that draw the lines and all the fittings you need. Write how many of each item you need.
Then, log onto http://www.anplumbing.com http://www.summitracing.com or http://www.jegs.com or even goto a local auto parts store if this is an option you have. Now order the parts you need.
If you cant work out what metric fittings you need, then are you going to have the tools or ability to bend and flare the lines correctly?
It's just frustrating how every second post people ask what brake adaptors they need, or what size fittings they need... The answer is in the inital post and every second post from there on!!
To make it more clear:
1. Brake adaptors: 10mm x 1.00. Both ends are MALE
2. -3AN tube nuts, tube sleeves, bulkeads, bulkhead nuts.
3. 3/16" brake line
That is it, those 3 are ALL you need. Now do some reading and work out exactly how many of each you need. Also, work out whether to get steel, stainless or aluminium.
This setup utilises the 37 degree single flare, not a double flare. Make sure you have a single flaring tool. Also, take note that this is prob not legal to use on your brake system.
Basically read this thread from post number 1 right upto this post... You should have all the info you need.
Modified by Paul1985 at 7:12 AM 5/9/2008
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Modified by Paul1985 at 7:37 AM 5/9/2008
05-09-2008, 07:07 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NHswaps13203 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">that should be on page 1 </TD></TR></TABLE>
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05-09-2008, 08:14 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NHswaps13203 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">that should be on page 1 </TD></TR></TABLE>
I sorta is listed out in the first post. But I think Paul1985 did a very nice job of summarizing it all up. Good post Paul!
I sorta is listed out in the first post. But I think Paul1985 did a very nice job of summarizing it all up. Good post Paul!
05-09-2008, 10:20 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Paul1985 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">People think this is more confusing than it really is!!
The fittings in the Master Cylinder, Prop Valve, OEM Brake caliper hose are all OEM metric fittings.
They are all 10 x 1.00mm fittings.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Hey Paul,
While you are at it, what size are the in + out on a 1" M/C? The small size is 10x1.00mm from the looks of it, but I'm guessing the other is a 12x1.00m? It's a lot larger.
Thanks,
The fittings in the Master Cylinder, Prop Valve, OEM Brake caliper hose are all OEM metric fittings.
They are all 10 x 1.00mm fittings.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Hey Paul,
While you are at it, what size are the in + out on a 1" M/C? The small size is 10x1.00mm from the looks of it, but I'm guessing the other is a 12x1.00m? It's a lot larger.
Thanks,
05-09-2008, 11:40 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mrlegoman »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I sorta is listed out in the first post. But I think Paul1985 did a very nice job of summarizing it all up. Good post Paul!</TD></TR></TABLE>
thats why i said it, you just wanted to post huh
I sorta is listed out in the first post. But I think Paul1985 did a very nice job of summarizing it all up. Good post Paul!</TD></TR></TABLE>
thats why i said it, you just wanted to post huh
05-09-2008, 11:54 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sinitron »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Hey Paul,
While you are at it, what size are the in + out on a 1" M/C? The small size is 10x1.00mm from the looks of it, but I'm guessing the other is a 12x1.00m? It's a lot larger.
Thanks,</TD></TR></TABLE>
1" Master from the 90-97 integra is a 12x1.00mm facing the passenger side and 10x1.00mm facing the drivers. Keep in mind the 1"MC from the 98-01 GSR/ITR is different, it has different exit points for the fittings and it also uses 2 of the 10x1.00mm fittings (one pointing straight up, one facing the passenger side). Also the resevoir looks different
Hey Paul,
While you are at it, what size are the in + out on a 1" M/C? The small size is 10x1.00mm from the looks of it, but I'm guessing the other is a 12x1.00m? It's a lot larger.
Thanks,</TD></TR></TABLE>
1" Master from the 90-97 integra is a 12x1.00mm facing the passenger side and 10x1.00mm facing the drivers. Keep in mind the 1"MC from the 98-01 GSR/ITR is different, it has different exit points for the fittings and it also uses 2 of the 10x1.00mm fittings (one pointing straight up, one facing the passenger side). Also the resevoir looks different
05-10-2008, 05:22 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Fresh’86 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
1" Master from the 90-97 integra is a 12x1.00mm facing the passenger side and 10x1.00mm facing the drivers. Keep in mind the 1"MC from the 98-01 GSR/ITR is different, it has different exit points for the fittings and it also uses 2 of the 10x1.00mm fittings (one pointing straight up, one facing the passenger side). Also the resevoir looks different</TD></TR></TABLE>
Thanks for the heads up. I believe what I got is a 1" from a 94-95 Integra based on your description of the line locations. Is a 12x1.00mm a common fitting size to do those nifty fittings right off the MS like shown above?
Is 1" overkill? I had a 13/16ths, but was hoping to get more stopping support for 4-piston front, and stock rear calipers.
Thanks,
1" Master from the 90-97 integra is a 12x1.00mm facing the passenger side and 10x1.00mm facing the drivers. Keep in mind the 1"MC from the 98-01 GSR/ITR is different, it has different exit points for the fittings and it also uses 2 of the 10x1.00mm fittings (one pointing straight up, one facing the passenger side). Also the resevoir looks different
</TD></TR></TABLE>Thanks for the heads up. I believe what I got is a 1" from a 94-95 Integra based on your description of the line locations. Is a 12x1.00mm a common fitting size to do those nifty fittings right off the MS like shown above?
Is 1" overkill? I had a 13/16ths, but was hoping to get more stopping support for 4-piston front, and stock rear calipers.
Thanks,
05-10-2008, 07:17 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sinitron »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Thanks for the heads up. I believe what I got is a 1" from a 94-95 Integra based on your description of the line locations. Is a 12x1.00mm a common fitting size to do those nifty fittings right off the MS like shown above?
Is 1" overkill? I had a 13/16ths, but was hoping to get more stopping support for 4-piston front, and stock rear calipers.
Thanks,</TD></TR></TABLE>
It's recommended as soon as you go past 1 piston. Even ITR's and GSR's have it, and GSR's have 10.4" rotors up front and single piston calipers.
12x1.0 is actually a hard fitting to find. You can order brake lines that are preflared and have the fittings on them if you need one. I asked Tom from ANplumbing to also order a set of the 12x1.00mm banjo bolts and banjo's, so you should check the site. He placed a special order from england weeks ago, so they should be here. If anything send him an email
Thanks for the heads up. I believe what I got is a 1" from a 94-95 Integra based on your description of the line locations. Is a 12x1.00mm a common fitting size to do those nifty fittings right off the MS like shown above?
Is 1" overkill? I had a 13/16ths, but was hoping to get more stopping support for 4-piston front, and stock rear calipers.
Thanks,</TD></TR></TABLE>
It's recommended as soon as you go past 1 piston. Even ITR's and GSR's have it, and GSR's have 10.4" rotors up front and single piston calipers.
12x1.0 is actually a hard fitting to find. You can order brake lines that are preflared and have the fittings on them if you need one. I asked Tom from ANplumbing to also order a set of the 12x1.00mm banjo bolts and banjo's, so you should check the site. He placed a special order from england weeks ago, so they should be here. If anything send him an email
