H&R vs Eibach springs?
07-28-2007, 06:04 PM
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Re: H&R vs Eibach springs? (twowords)
Personally I prefer H&R
Rides better and nobody ever complains about the gap after a H&R drop like they do with eibach
Rides better and nobody ever complains about the gap after a H&R drop like they do with eibach
07-30-2007, 10:27 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Stoich EG2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have sportlines now... i want H&R now, or neuspeed. the sportlines are too soft and too high 
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suffering the eibach boat issue eh?
</TD></TR></TABLE>suffering the eibach boat issue eh?
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09-05-2007, 12:06 PM
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ERS (Eibach Race Springs) 8" x 2.5" on progress coilovers with a helper spring to take up the slack.
Does H+R make universal springs similar to the ERS for coilovers?
Does H+R make universal springs similar to the ERS for coilovers?
09-06-2007, 05:12 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ComeOnKip »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ERS (Eibach Race Springs) 8" x 2.5" on progress coilovers with a helper spring to take up the slack.
Does H+R make universal springs similar to the ERS for coilovers?
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Yes H&R has Race Springs available in 2.5id at various lengths and rates and are made of a stronger and lighter material..
Does H+R make universal springs similar to the ERS for coilovers?
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Yes H&R has Race Springs available in 2.5id at various lengths and rates and are made of a stronger and lighter material..
09-06-2007, 05:23 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tom@yoparts.com »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Yes H&R has Race Springs available in 2.5id at various lengths and rates and are made of a stronger and lighter material.. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Not to be a naysayer, but the only thing i've seen that comes close to an ERS in quality, material and strength is a Swift. I haven't seen an H+R, but if it is a truly better product, I'd be amazed that it hasn't caught on with our grass roots racers in the states.
But it also could be because I'm an Eibach W.D.
just my .o2 tho.
Yes H&R has Race Springs available in 2.5id at various lengths and rates and are made of a stronger and lighter material.. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Not to be a naysayer, but the only thing i've seen that comes close to an ERS in quality, material and strength is a Swift. I haven't seen an H+R, but if it is a truly better product, I'd be amazed that it hasn't caught on with our grass roots racers in the states.
But it also could be because I'm an Eibach W.D.
just my .o2 tho.
09-06-2007, 08:58 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ComeOnKip »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Not to be a naysayer, but the only thing i've seen that comes close to an ERS in quality, material and strength is a Swift. I haven't seen an H+R, but if it is a truly better product, I'd be amazed that it hasn't caught on with our grass roots racers in the states.
But it also could be because I'm an Eibach W.D. just my .o2 tho.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Good talking w/ you tonight Mike
"H&R standardized I.D. Race Springs are the leading choice of motorsports professionals world wide. H&R 2.50" I.D. Race Springs are wound from a special spring steel that has a higher tensile strength, providing clear performance to weight ratio advantages over competitive race springs. The special 54SiCr6 spring steel allows H&R 2.50" I.D. Race Springs to be on average 15% lighter and have 10% more travel for any given spring rate due to its stronger, more resilient nature. Main springs range from 6" to 16" (25.4 mm = 1 inch) in length and are available in a wide selection of spring rates."
Not to be a naysayer, but the only thing i've seen that comes close to an ERS in quality, material and strength is a Swift. I haven't seen an H+R, but if it is a truly better product, I'd be amazed that it hasn't caught on with our grass roots racers in the states.
But it also could be because I'm an Eibach W.D.
just my .o2 tho.</TD></TR></TABLE>Good talking w/ you tonight Mike
"H&R standardized I.D. Race Springs are the leading choice of motorsports professionals world wide. H&R 2.50" I.D. Race Springs are wound from a special spring steel that has a higher tensile strength, providing clear performance to weight ratio advantages over competitive race springs. The special 54SiCr6 spring steel allows H&R 2.50" I.D. Race Springs to be on average 15% lighter and have 10% more travel for any given spring rate due to its stronger, more resilient nature. Main springs range from 6" to 16" (25.4 mm = 1 inch) in length and are available in a wide selection of spring rates."
09-06-2007, 09:09 PM
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ERS are the dominant spring in any sort of racing: Nascar, CART, off-road, etc. Hyperco is the only company that is even remotely close. And they are not close at all.
Little piece of spring history for you guys. Both Mr H. and Mr R. (H&R) started at Eibach where they learned the spring business from Wilfried Eibach. Then they left after a number of years and started H&R.
For a simple lowering kit, eibach and h&r both make a good product. I would recommend h&r over tein, rsr, etc
Little piece of spring history for you guys. Both Mr H. and Mr R. (H&R) started at Eibach where they learned the spring business from Wilfried Eibach. Then they left after a number of years and started H&R.
For a simple lowering kit, eibach and h&r both make a good product. I would recommend h&r over tein, rsr, etc
09-06-2007, 09:42 PM
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Wilfrieds a very nice man, I met him at SEMA. I used to be the NE rep for Eibach.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtecvoodoo »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> ERS are the dominant spring in any sort of racing: Nascar, CART, off-road, etc. Hyperco is the only company that is even remotely close. And they are not close at all. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Well put.
Or as Mr. Peek would refer to it, the blue spring and the yellow spring (afco) for us circle trackers haha
I must say after being lucky enough to have dinner with two of the salesman from Eibach that they by FAR have the most training and legitmate product knowledge from any spring company I've ever dealt with.
I'm sure both are quality products, but for my car its eibachs.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtecvoodoo »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> ERS are the dominant spring in any sort of racing: Nascar, CART, off-road, etc. Hyperco is the only company that is even remotely close. And they are not close at all. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Well put.
Or as Mr. Peek would refer to it, the blue spring and the yellow spring (afco) for us circle trackers haha
I must say after being lucky enough to have dinner with two of the salesman from Eibach that they by FAR have the most training and legitmate product knowledge from any spring company I've ever dealt with.
I'm sure both are quality products, but for my car its eibachs.
09-07-2007, 05:11 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtecvoodoo »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ERS are the dominant spring in any sort of racing: Nascar, CART, off-road, etc. Hyperco is the only company that is even remotely close. And they are not close at all.
Little piece of spring history for you guys. Both Mr H. and Mr R. (H&R) started at Eibach where they learned the spring business from Wilfried Eibach. Then they left after a number of years and started H&R.
For a simple lowering kit, eibach and h&r both make a good product. I would recommend h&r over tein, rsr, etc </TD></TR></TABLE>
yO .. I am def.. not hating on Eibach .. both are great companies and great quality springs..
They are my preference thats all .. having worked at TMS where we won w/ H&R Exclusively countless SpeedWorld Challenge Cups and Grand Am Cup titles..
Little piece of spring history for you guys. Both Mr H. and Mr R. (H&R) started at Eibach where they learned the spring business from Wilfried Eibach. Then they left after a number of years and started H&R.
For a simple lowering kit, eibach and h&r both make a good product. I would recommend h&r over tein, rsr, etc
</TD></TR></TABLE>yO .. I am def.. not hating on Eibach .. both are great companies and great quality springs..
They are my preference thats all
.. having worked at TMS where we won w/ H&R Exclusively countless SpeedWorld Challenge Cups and Grand Am Cup titles..
09-07-2007, 05:45 AM
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Re: H&R vs Eibach springs? (twowords)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by twowords »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">which is better? 
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I can't say that I am pleased with my Eibach springs. I purchased a new pair of Eibach ERS 7" 500 lbs-in 2.5ID and a pair of 6" 600 lbs-in 2.5ID with Ground Control coilovers about 3 years ago. After only 30,000 miles of use, a coil on one of my front 500 lbs-in springs rusted completely through and broke. This is completely unacceptable, particularly when the cheaper and supposedly lesser quality stock springs lasted 13 years and over 230,000 miles before coils rusted and broke.
This is not the first time I have heard of such an incidence. I decided to order up a new set of Hypercoils to replace them.
Despite recommending dozens of sets of Eibach ERS in the past, I am only recommending Hyperco and H&R these days.
</TD></TR></TABLE>I can't say that I am pleased with my Eibach springs. I purchased a new pair of Eibach ERS 7" 500 lbs-in 2.5ID and a pair of 6" 600 lbs-in 2.5ID with Ground Control coilovers about 3 years ago. After only 30,000 miles of use, a coil on one of my front 500 lbs-in springs rusted completely through and broke. This is completely unacceptable, particularly when the cheaper and supposedly lesser quality stock springs lasted 13 years and over 230,000 miles before coils rusted and broke.
This is not the first time I have heard of such an incidence. I decided to order up a new set of Hypercoils to replace them.
Despite recommending dozens of sets of Eibach ERS in the past, I am only recommending Hyperco and H&R these days.
09-07-2007, 07:09 AM
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I have seen it happen twice in the 6 years I have been here. Both instances were due to a blemish in the material, which we have no control over. A simple PM or call would have a new set on your door step the next morning.
09-07-2007, 07:16 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PatrickGSR94 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dang, first time I've ever heard of an ERS spring rusting through and breaking.</TD></TR></TABLE>
x2! but then again, the guys in DIRT late models and modifieds change rates because every track has such wildly varying conditions, so they might not have to the tortures of driving on it everyday. I've sold 150 plus 10" x 2.5" and have yet to see one break. And these boys are 2550 lbs wet w/ driver and drive off and over each other.
x2! but then again, the guys in DIRT late models and modifieds change rates because every track has such wildly varying conditions, so they might not have to the tortures of driving on it everyday. I've sold 150 plus 10" x 2.5" and have yet to see one break. And these boys are 2550 lbs wet w/ driver and drive off and over each other.
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