ALDJ253

I read the full sticky at the top for choosing coilover systems. It was posted a long time ago, and it suggests AMR coilovers. It is now 2015, and latest posts of AMR I can find is posted back in 2012/2013. What happened to them? Did they end up plummeting and going bank-rupt? Did people not like them, and stopped buying from them? I also saw their account on HT has been banned. May I ask why? Sorry for the questions. Gettin a 6th Gen accord soon, and looking at different suspension set ups.

My eye is on
1) H&R Sports springs with Koni STR.Ts
2) H&R Sports springs with Koni Sports
Or if I save up for awhile
3) Koni Sports with GC Coilover sleeves.

Then I found the sticky, and am wondering if any of the last 2 options, or even AMR would be ideal for a DD.

spAdam

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AMR apparently made a great product, unfortunately the business side of things was not handled so well.

Option 3 on your list is the way to go. Let's be honest, you don't need to lower your car. Save up and do that option and you'll have a setup that works well out of the box, has room to grow, and will retain a decent amount of value should you decide to part out.

B serious

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Are you truly just looking for a street/DD coilover? What's important to you? How low do you want to go? What type of car?

Koni/GC is a good suspension....but I wouldn't say that they're the end-all for just a daily driven car. There are more focused options for the same-ish cost.

STOCK_SOHC_DX

AMR is still around, I have 4 sets and they are still running great on my cars. Go to the website and call the 888 # if you want to spend the $

This is your best option imho unless you want/need valving for stiffer springs.

ALDJ253

Sounds like a good plan ^.^

Car is a 1998 Honda Accord LX Sedan.

I don't want it slammed, too many potholes and speed bumps here. I am looking for a near flush look, maybe around a finger width of space between top of tire and wheel well, after throwing 16 or 17 inch rims on the car, while also adding comfort. Yes, I know, some comfort will be sacrificed for a lower car, but I am looking for not a huge bounce on bumps, and not having to fear about bottoming out over bumps/potholes. (rims wont happen for a little, because I still haven't decided on lowering or rims first).

I am going to be getting this 6th Gen as my graduation present from my parents (Woot woot, one more week ). I will have to do a tune-up, and find the stalling problem (either immobilizer or ignition switch). These 2 or 3 things will come first but will not be too not too expensive, and will most likely come from my graduation money. Definitely going to be getting a job when college starts, or even sooner, and I will slowly piece the car together over my college years. I am just currently doing research, figuring out what I want, pricing it out to see how much I am going to be spending, gathering tools, etc. This will hopefully be a fun project for me over the years to come

ALDJ253

Didn't catch your post at first, because I as typing mine when yours was loaded XD

And alright, sounds like a plan

Just got to figure out the order I want to do things

B serious

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I have Tein Street Advances on my TSX. They're almost perfect DD coilovers. They're soft without being too floaty, and the ride is better than stock.

My GF's TSX Wagon has KW ST-X's. They don't have damper adjustments....but the KW factory damper setting is effing amazing. They're a little more firm than the Teins...but tons of low speed bump damping makes the car super super super flat around turns, and it rides very German.

The ride height shown was perfect for me. But they are at the top (!!) range of their recommended adjustment. I could slam that wagon in the allowable range.





Ride is near perfect. Like firm butters. Fuggedaboudit.

I didn't go with Koni/GC on either because this was only a street suspension (although....those ST's would probably be at home on a track as well), and I wanted more focused street manners rather than Koni's versatility.

ALDJ253

I have another question, when it comes to picking spring rates, how do I decide?

The stock is somewhere around 180f/140r, so I would need higher than that since the car will be lowered. Can I get some help with this?

B serious

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Spring rates should be matched to the damper and its valving. Ready-made coilovers like the ones I mentioned above already have this figured out for you. If you buy from a reputable company (like the ones I mentioned above), they probably figured much more correctly than you, me, or any random person on the internet can.

If you buy something custom made, the company you buy from can valve the shocks to your spring rates. Get ready to spend $$.

Or you can buy koni yellows...which adjust only rebound (which makes them so versatile)...and can get you into range for a wide array of spring rates. And figure out your spring rates based on guessing, math, and other peoples' experience.

For reference, the Wagon (KW ST-X suspension) in the above pictures has something like 600F and 300R rates. I wouldn't recommend 600 on non-revalved Koni Yellows for an Accord.

I think the Teins on my 1G TSX Sedan are like....400F, 250R. Something like that would work fine with a Koni Yellow.

ALDJ253

Did you have to corner balance your car? I have been researching that, some people suggest it, however, some say it is not necessary if it is not a track car.

donut.

I'd be careful with AMR. So far, this guy is the only one able to get his sets and he plugs AMR all over the forum. That's all he ever posts, that he has 4 sets and they're the best in the world this and that. I wouldn't be surprised if this guy is conspiring with AMR.

B serious

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Nah. Hardly any benefit for a street car

STOCK_SOHC_DX

You will actually feel the difference daily driving since that's the most seat time you have. Done mine and love it

STOCK_SOHC_DX

Yeah I totally work for Andy, his shop is in Honolulu, Washington.

Custom built, good machine work, great ride, lifetime warranty. That's why I plug AMR. I have only once had a hard time getting in touch with him when he was out of country.

donut.

Oh yeah because no one ever lies about their location.

Oh yeah because since you can get ahold of him, lets just ignore the fact that AMR leaves other people high and dry. As long as you're happy, promote AMR so you can help them screw more people over.

You're either a real dumbass or you're scratching his back so he can scratch yours. Which one is it.

STOCK_SOHC_DX

I have no idea how he's scratching my back. I've bought coils from him at the Honda-tech rate which he still offers, I must be just lucky since I've always gotten great customer service from them. As for me lying about my location, haha I wish. Cost of living sucks out here.

GagnarTheUnruly

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To pick spring rates, you will want to talk to people who drive your model or one close to it, because 300 on one car may not mean the same as another. As far as brands, Koni GC is a no brainer for many many reasons. I would be cautious with the budget "full" coilovers that are so popular these days. I have no personal experience with these days but there are so many horror stories…

B serious

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Buying budget ANYTHING is a function of strategy.

If you're buying $600 coilovers with 32 way damping "adjustment" and full body height adjustments from a company that promises that all your dreams will come true....you'll probably cry yourself to sleep after installing them.

There are budget coilovers that sacrifice features for quality. They are also almost always one-dimensional and work well ONLY on the street. Those are the ones you want if you just want to lower your car for the street and maintain comfort. The key is to shop smart, not dumb. Tein SA or SB would be a good example of this category.

The ST's I mentioned above are made in Germany by KW. Obviously, quality is not going to suffer. You get very well set dampers from the factory...but no damper adjustments to play with. After driving on them...I can say that you can probably transfer their manners to a race track...and they'll probably work at a lower level.

I plan to write a review on some of the coilovers that I've had personal experience with. I'll link it here when I'm done.

STOCK_SOHC_DX

I spoke to Andy on the HT account issue he told me it's due to the parting ways of sponsoring the site. He still is in business as you can see and also offers the HT discount. I personally went with his coilovers due to the fact that I wanted my shocks matched and valved for a certain spring rate. You can't beat the warranty either he just sent me these dust boots and gaskets free of charge. If you personally don't need/want the custom valving then you should go with koni/gc and call it a day

toyomatt84

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I can understand why he discontinued sponsorship...
https://honda-tech.com/sales-feedbac...ow-up-3184376/

m4xwellmurd3r

I was thinking of saving up and getting amr coil overs. at first I thought "a few weeks wait for a quality product is OK" till I started reading all the horror stories.

so I decided to be budget minded and got some progress cs2 coilovers for my car. 90% daily and 10% fooling around on twisty roads, and they are perfect for that.

also, I ordered over a weekend. ups shipping info on their site didn't give an estimate delivery time so I pmed them here Sunday night. got a message back first thing in the morning saying my kit was being shipped that day and ups would send an email after they pick up their outgoing shipment, and that's exactly what happened.

yeah, they are super basic coil overs, but damn are they nice for a daily.

but if I had the money I would get a set of koni/GC coils

TracerAcer2.2L

Pretty sure that just not being a sponsor anymore isn't grounds for banning. The link posted above, however...